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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#140851: Sep 28th 2016 at 3:44:28 PM

[up][up][up][up]Well if he's honest about who he wants to punch in the face, then it's only "sound logic" (just bugs me) that he's honest about everything else in general.

edited 28th Sep '16 3:45:30 PM by nervmeister

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#140853: Sep 28th 2016 at 3:51:54 PM

@higgs: did you ask him what the relative weight of morality was? Does murder carry more electrons then shoplifting? Or is it located in a tea cup above mars? That's some really tortured logic for sure. Did you try asking what if he found out that objective morality is against him, like if we discovered it is immoral not to eat dead bodies?

@christain conservative: It sounds like a joke to me. Like he's razzing his non-CC fans. Granted it's neither funny or appropriate but the man is 70. I'm surprised he hasn't called black people colored by accident yet.

@polls: Our Father, who art in statistical analysis, 538 be thy name, has Clinton up 5% compared to pre-debate in their polls only forecast. Keep in mind these are only the early-bird polls. Tomorrowish we can expect more to drop and they might revise their numbers up even more.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#140854: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:04:02 PM

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/28/politics/fbi-james-comey-election-cyberattacks/

Russia is literally now trying to rig the election.

Hillary better bring the fucking Hammer down next January

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#140855: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:05:51 PM

She needs to push Trump's connections with them in the next debate. This is fucking ridiculous.

Oh really when?
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#140856: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:09:21 PM

It could be China. Ether way I say chop of Trump's head and mount it on a spike outside the White House. Even if he is innocent of this I still hate the guy.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#140857: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:10:29 PM

as terrible of a person trump is

that's kind of

very

extreme

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140858: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:17:05 PM

I agree. Let's not be tempted to advocate for violence against someone.

Do not obey in advance.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#140859: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:17:58 PM

I don't really wish death even for the most horrible people, honestly.

All I want is for Trump to fade into obscurity and all the horrible things he represents to cease being relevant.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#140860: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:17:59 PM

The reason that we don't physically murder our political opponents is because we as a society have agreed to do battle at the ballot box.

If things were otherwise, I'd agree to said murdering, but this isn't Syria.

edited 28th Sep '16 4:19:12 PM by Ramidel

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#140861: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:19:02 PM

No it's not the Chinese it's the Russians, they've been trying to rig this election in Trump's favor for a while now. And he's got lots of connections with them and their government.

edited 28th Sep '16 4:19:13 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#140862: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:20:01 PM

There's also the danger of turning an abhorrent enemy and all that represent into a martyr. I'm more in the view of following the Tao of Mel Brooks: mockery. His stated goal is to turn Hitler into as much a laughingstock possibly so he and his ideas can never be taken seriously.

edited 28th Sep '16 4:55:36 PM by sgamer82

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#140863: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:20:02 PM

Please also remember that Trump dying by foul play would be a spark in the powder keg that is his core supporters.

[nja]

edited 28th Sep '16 4:20:23 PM by Elle

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140864: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:23:32 PM

There's also compassion for people that care about him, like his friends and family.

What I wish for but am too cynical to expect is that ignorant people would get educated and become better people, but that rarely seems to happen.

edited 28th Sep '16 4:27:30 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#140865: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:27:10 PM

Like the GOP nominee is openly flirting with the President of the Russian Federation.

And his fans and the GOP establishment is fine with this.

Like...what the fuck.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#140866: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:30:41 PM

I wouldn't even call it flirting, really.

Oh really when?
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#140867: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:32:07 PM

[up][up][up]What we've seen of his family doesn't entirely inspire sympathy. Can't speak in regard to friends.

Re: Russia - I'm still not sure Trump's more than a useful idiot to Putin, nor that he knows whether or not he is one. A destabilized USA that is unlikely to get in his way are wins for him.

With the latest hacking news though, I'm pondering volunteering to help work the local polling places...well I was pondering it anyway because it's a paid gig and i need it but if there's some way my computer experience would be useful...

edited 28th Sep '16 4:38:00 PM by Elle

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#140868: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:35:17 PM

I'd prefer if after the election he fades into obscurity. He'll be a footnote in one of those crazy history books and nothing else.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140869: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:36:15 PM

[up]Me too.

His campaign has already damaged his brand. If he fails, who knows what'll happen to it. Maybe he will no longer be as strong a corporate entity and will devolve into a laughingstock.

edited 28th Sep '16 4:37:46 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
randomdude4 Since: May, 2011
#140870: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:40:21 PM

What I hope for Trump was put very well by Sansa Stark:

"Your words will disappear. Your house will disappear. Your name will disappear. All memory of you will disappear."

"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#140871: Sep 28th 2016 at 4:41:17 PM

@Trump and Russia. It isn't so much flirting as grinding against each other in a club.

And I was being sarcastic about mounting Trump's head on a spike outside the White House.

How Short-Termism Saps the Economy Preach Joe Preach. I like Hillary well enough, but I, and just about everyone I know, would be much more comfortable voting for Biden.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140872: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:02:41 PM

I think that Joe Biden is more likable than Hillary. Maybe he will run for nomination in the future. Just not now.

Do not obey in advance.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#140873: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:03:09 PM

Imagine what Biden would have done to Trump in the debate...

[up]He's not young and has had a lot go wrong in his personal life. I don't think he has it in him.

edited 28th Sep '16 5:04:15 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#140875: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:14:14 PM

I can't believe how easily alt-right Trump supporters are being taken in by these online polls. Just out of sheer Bile Fascination, I've been checking back on Know Your Meme's Facebook page, and their user base is in complete and utter denial. It's both sad and infuriating. Trump could lose this election by 30 points, and they would still try to rationalize it as him winning.

edited 28th Sep '16 5:16:15 PM by Lennik

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.

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