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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I think the idea behind Shell Shock versus PTSD is that Post Traumatic Stress Disorder makes the sufferer sound "weak", like they couldn't handle the stress of combat. They were traumatized. Which, well, they were, but this goes against people's notions of manliness and soldiering. Soldiers are supposed to be the toughest of the tough, so the ones who got PTSD must be the pansies who couldn't handle it.
By contrast, the term Shell Shock blatantly calls to mind the image of a soldier risking their life in the trenches, with artillery landing all around them, and implies that they're just a bit rattled and need to recover. Which maybe downplays the severity of the condition, but also makes treating it sound more appealing to the sort of person who might consider PTSD to be a condition for pansies. These brave shell shocked veterans need to be given a chance to recover.
Not saying that anyone might have actually gotten treatment with simply a different name for their condition, but I'd imagine something like that was supposed to be the idea.
edited 27th Sep '16 10:23:03 PM by Clarste
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Well that would mean more tax to devote to psychological research/treatment and education. But that would just be the Lefties taking away money from the rich, isn't it?
Exactly what you expect from a nation that has more testosterone than water.
edited 27th Sep '16 10:25:40 PM by flameboy21th
Non Indicative UsernameSomeone brought up a good point about how the alt-righters tend to be incredibly thin-skinned. It's pretty true, since they genuinely view whites as 'under attack' and the one group 'it's okay to be racist towards.'
They're angry their money goes to pay for welfare, which they see as going towards non-working minorities and/or illegal immigrants, for a start. So yeah, there's a lot of hypocrisy and double standards on the 'tough' right.
"Regarding mentally ill presidents, Grant suffered from PTSD, and was severely alcoholic to boot."
Records suggests Grant got drunk quickly after a binge, but this didn't happen often. His reputation as a drinker came from a particularly bad spell before the Civil War that forced him to resign from the army. He did get drunk on a few occasions during the war when there was no fighting going on, but all evidence points to him being sober when conducting battles and during his presidency.
Honestly, that sounds closer to Tim Kaine's position on the subject (though I don't know if that's exactly the same).
edited 27th Sep '16 11:03:04 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!@Random if you want to drop it that's fine, but in the end there's little I can do other than call him an idiot when all you said is that he is someone who believes a huge number of factual incorrect things. I mean I guess gullible is a nicer word but in the end I'm working off the information you've given me, and that is that your freind believes a bunch of things that are factually and provably wrong.
On the Shell Shock vs PTSD thing, remember while Shell Shock is only about vets PTSD is about a lot more than that, I know American culture likes to act like only vets get PTSD but that's simply not true, hell I only know one person with PTSD and they've never been in a military.
Also the problem with trying to connect Vietnam Vets with vets from either world war is that World War One was at least fought in part to protect democracies and the US was a actor with the moral high ground, World War Two was fought to protect the US, while Vietnam ant about protecting the US, it wasn't even about helping another democracy, it was about enforcing America's will on other via the barrel of a gun. Now none of that was the fault of the common soilder but let's not act as if the wars were morally equal.
edited 27th Sep '16 11:21:36 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranNot to mention America gave up half way through. Making the efforts pointless.
edited 27th Sep '16 11:36:00 PM by flameboy21th
Non Indicative UsernameIn fact, I see a lot of similarity between the Vietnam and Iraq wars. But this time around, people seem to grasp more the distinction between the politicians who decided of the war and the soldiers who were sent there.
Quoth randomdude4:
edited 28th Sep '16 1:32:01 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."There is an intense belief behind Milo and his fans that being called racist is the worst thing. That it's a Scarlet Letter the left hangs around its enemies to silence them, and since they're not actively assaulting and lynching people they can't possibly be racist.
edited 28th Sep '16 2:09:47 AM by nervmeister
It is actually much simpler than that. They just like being the sympathetic victims. Everyone like to become the victims that are coddled and pampered by everyone. Besides, if they are the victims, everything they do automatically become justified retaliation.
If they accept being called a racist or even a douchebag, it means that they are no longer the sympathetic victim, but the unsympathetic persecutor. Victim complex FTW, yo.
Only an experienced editor who has a name possesses the ability to truly understand my work - What 90% of writers I'm in charge of said.edited 28th Sep '16 3:34:16 AM by nervmeister
And adding that is necessary... because?
From Patheos: First Debate Highlights: That Moment Every Woman Knew What It Felt Like to Be Hillary
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I have no idea how on earth you get to be running for a major position and complain about attack ads either.
edited 28th Sep '16 3:46:52 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotSo... #NotAllWhiteCisMales? What a helpful observation.
Ford has finally stepped in to debunk Trump's claims about US job losses from Ford production shifts, after almost everyone supporting the GOP on Twitter started repeating it
. Why rapid fact-checking is useful, in other words. No point doing it after every case of Facebook Stolen Valor has reposted some meme about the globalists at Ford leaving poor factory workers jobless. What do xenophobic right wingers drive anyway?
edited 28th Sep '16 4:16:42 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotedited 28th Sep '16 4:36:36 AM by nervmeister
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None of that new crap. Probably not anything less than 20 years old.
Keep Rolling OnMy community actually has several gas stations that cater exclusively to them, offering only ethanol-free gasoline at twice the price of normal gas. One recently offered a "Fuck Obama Coal-Roller
" kit for diesel engines that caused them to belch black smoke from the exhaust.
edited 28th Sep '16 5:41:56 AM by carbon-mantis

edited 11th Dec '16 8:45:56 PM by randomdude4
"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur