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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Oh, my mistake. I still think paying no taxes is nothing to brag about both from a personal and from a political aspect. Ignoring the fact that it makes him look like an ass it brings up an obvious question. If taxes are really so onerous then how is he able to conduct business without paying any of them?
So what does it mean?
edited 27th Sep '16 4:13:22 PM by Kostya
@Tactical Fox. At least I was told such a thing was impossible because ether the Supreme Court or Congress would move to block any Presidential tyrant. Failing that ether the Military would overthrow him, or the people would, it was assumed that after 230 years of democracy we would react violently to it's end.
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.![]()
And those things do make it harder. The checks and balances have worked so far, for the most part. Lately we've been stretching them pretty darn hard though, and has been pointed out at other times in this thread, they forgot to put in a check on a Congress that's gone off the rails..
edited 27th Sep '16 4:23:07 PM by Elle
Yeah, I don't think the Founders could have planned for a situation where the other two branches are openly colluding with the president to impose a totalitarian rule. Even if they did I don't think there's a whole lot they could have done about it. Ultimately it's on us to not vote for people that pull this shit.
The problem with Congress right now is not that they are colluding with the President, but that they basically aren't working with the President and doing their job. The Founders for all their foresight assumed that each branch would try to get as much power as they could... They did not assume that the branches would refuse to do their jobs or that the people would be okay with said branches not doing their respective jobs.
edited 27th Sep '16 4:46:40 PM by GameGuruGG
Wizard Needs Food BadlyThe Supreme Court has way more influence now than it did back in Jackson's time. Flagrantly disobeying the Court would have all but Trump's, or any president for that matter, most loyal followers outraged and that truly would set off a constitutional crisis.
FDR tried to take on the court once and it cost him nearly all the goodwill he had enjoyed with non-Democrats up till that point. No president since then would try or get away with it even if they did try.
edited 27th Sep '16 5:13:09 PM by Parable
Has anyone on here heard of Newsmax TV? It seems to have been taken off off the schedule. My father used to watch it every day. Ugh.
Newsmax was veering dangerously into alt-right territory. They even had that Milo guy on after he was kicked off of Twitter.
I don't miss Newsmax at all, I have to say.
Do not obey in advance.![]()
Maybe it's a cultural thing. Many people are voting Trump purely to voice distaste with the radical direction of the American left, and their fear that America as they know it is being destroyed. I've met my fair share of people who have had it with political correctness and the tendency to analyze the social and racial implications of every little act. Most of these people tend to be straight white and male, but their are exceptions.
I think minorities supporting Trump and voting for him are desperately trying to get Darwin Awards.
Inter arma enim silent leges@ randomdude Simple - you don't.
If he's supposedly that smart and yet still hates what Hillary stands for enough to the point of wanting to support Trump, it means he essentially wants Trump to act like a wrecking ball to the political system. It's the one common thread I see amongst his more intellectual supporters: they realize the man is a complete moron and a poor choice for the candidacy, but also realize that he'll force all the government branches into a panic as they desperately try to re-organize themselves to resist whatever he's planning.
I might suggest asking him as to what he thinks congress and the other branches will do to compensate for Trump's shenanigans once he's in power, and what he's expecting out of them in turn as a positive result. There's a million different ways he could answer, but I'll say this: if he sincerely thinks Trump's gonna be an effective strongman on the international stage, especially after how cozy he's been with Putin, then your buddy's nowhere near as smart as you credit him for.
Or here's another suggestion. Point out that if Trump is literally only interested in getting the Presidency for the sake of his legacy, that means there's a real chance Mike Pence may end up becoming the de-facto "true" president by virtue of him being the only politically competent one of the duo. And Pence is essentially a VERY conservative fellow who's both against gay marriage and a whole lot of other women's reproductive rights and whatnot.
edited 27th Sep '16 5:47:38 PM by SgtRicko
Frankly, even though I hate him and will definitely vote for Hillary, I think the worries about Trump are exaggerated. Even if he does believe all the hateful and ignorant stuff he says, I doubt he actually knows enough about politics to get anything changed with the rather limited authority of the President. He represents a lot of bad things about the country, but he won't be able to single-handedly implement any of them. More worrying is the idea of his followers consistently winning lower federal and state offices.
Trump himself isn't scary to me. The fact that's he's backed by ~50% of the nation is.
edited 27th Sep '16 6:14:56 PM by Clarste
Yeah, I understand that Trump could potentially do a lot of horrible shit, but the way people are going on makes it seem like he'd have absolute power to do, to any horrible thing, from the second he took office.
Honestly, going off his record, I wouldn't be surprised if he backed off with a lot of the stuff he's said and then tried to play it off as never having said he'd do it. Of course, anything he would get done would be terrible, but I'm not sure how much that would actually be.
Edit: None of this is meant to imply he should even be given the chance, though.
edited 27th Sep '16 6:29:56 PM by LSBK
True. Trump is the one to benefit the most from that "trickle down" bullshit.
edited 27th Sep '16 6:34:08 PM by flameboy21th
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so my dad apparently believes that trump's "that makes me smart" comment doesn't actually mean he has committed tax evasion
this election, man.
also transcript for those who didn't watch it.
no idea if this was posted before so whoops if it was.
edited 27th Sep '16 4:12:44 PM by golgothasArisen
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