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AqueousBunnies Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#140301: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:48:37 PM

How long does the debate last?

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140302: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:48:45 PM

There he goes, propping up stop and frisk again. Wasn't that a racist policy?

In some places, the relationship between cops and civilians isn't good? Understatement.

edited 26th Sep '16 6:51:11 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#140303: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:48:54 PM

"In Chicago, we've had thousands of shootings..."

wut

edited 26th Sep '16 6:49:45 PM by kkhohoho

golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#140304: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:49:27 PM

Wait, is he arguing with the debate moderator? Is that even allowed?

"If you spend all your heart / On something that has died / You are not alive and that can't be a life"
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#140305: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:50:11 PM

And the moderator calls Trump out on Stop and Frisk laws.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#140306: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:50:28 PM

Mod: Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional.

Trump: You're Wrong.

wut? XD

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#140307: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:50:34 PM

@ kkhohoho26th: Unfortunately a lot of people hold this view. My father said that when one exploits a loophole in a law it is not the fault of the person using the loophole, but the government for failing to close the loophole. Mind you he used this to explain how his conservative ideology would allow me to be friends with the son of an immigrant mother form the DR who exploited US laws to get her son treatment on taxpayer dime.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#140308: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:51:09 PM

Oh look, Trump lost what little black vote he had

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#140309: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:51:30 PM

Oh man Trump is doubling down on his defense of Stop & Frisk.

I wonder if it's possible for him to get less than 0% of the Black Vote.

edited 26th Sep '16 6:52:33 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#140310: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:51:36 PM

He doesn't shut up.

Inter arma enim silent leges
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140311: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:52:03 PM

I wonder if it's possible for him to get less than 0% of the Black Vote.

That would be an Epic Fail for sure.

edited 26th Sep '16 6:52:45 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#140312: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:52:15 PM

BTW, is what Holt doing (like bringing up stop and frisk being unconstitutional) fact checking?

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#140313: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:52:53 PM

Their is no fact checking

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#140314: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:52:57 PM

Thank you Hillary for bringing how crime is half of what it was in the 90's.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#140315: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:54:32 PM

Actually, yes-if the moderator doesn't argue with anyone, they weren't necessary.

Leviticus 19:34
golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#140316: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:55:26 PM

Stop and frisk is unconstitutional being fact checking depends on your definition. In my opinion, fact checking is when you pull up sources, when it's obvious this is just the moderator's own thoughts being voiced.

edited 26th Sep '16 6:55:34 PM by golgothasArisen

"If you spend all your heart / On something that has died / You are not alive and that can't be a life"
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#140317: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:55:38 PM

I'm surprised Trump hasn't brought up the recent spike in the murder and rape rates.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140318: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:55:43 PM

Isn't the NRA a bit shady?

Ooh, he's bringing up her "superpredators" comment.

edited 26th Sep '16 6:56:41 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#140319: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:56:12 PM

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#140320: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:56:52 PM

Trump drops the Super Predator bomb.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#140321: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:57:28 PM

[up][up][up]They're a Single-Issue Wonk to an extreme level, mostly. They want no gun legislation period.

edited 26th Sep '16 6:58:12 PM by Elle

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#140322: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:57:47 PM

Does being a gun manufacturer interest group count as shady?

Mall ninjas aren't shady, though, more pathetic if they didn't have easy access to guns.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#140323: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:58:46 PM

[up]The other way around the NRA started bossing over Gun Manufacturers with their boycott strategies.

Inter arma enim silent leges
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140324: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:59:12 PM

"Black people are used and used to get votes"

Ya don't say. Politicians lack a little self-awareness in this regard.

Do not obey in advance.
Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#140325: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:59:14 PM

love how he blatantly said murders are up, when Hillary brought up facts about how they are actually down.

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?

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