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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140076: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:18:01 PM

I heard that Trump thought that Lester Holt would be a biased moderator because Trump thought he was a Democrat, but he's actually a Republican. Why would Trump assume that Holt is a Democrat?

Is Trump a little paranoid about the upcoming debate? wink

Do not obey in advance.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#140077: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:20:10 PM

[up][up]Voting Democratic doesn't necessarily mean voting for all the things Progressives stand for. I've seen more than a few bemoan that, and it's always come off as a bit self-important and obnoxious.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#140078: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:30:49 PM

[up] That's not what I mean. Things are not going particularly well for African Americans right now, and while the democrats are making big promises, its unlikely they'll be fulfilled, simply because they're such a loyal voting block for democrats. That's not without reason, but whatever political capital is left over after a party has rewarded its donors tends to go to winning over or reinforcing flaky or undecided parts of the electorate.

@Beary: That's Trump's way of saying "you better not fact check me, or you guys are getting banned from my future events."

edited 25th Sep '16 7:34:24 PM by CaptainCapsase

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#140079: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:33:43 PM

"I could absolutely see someone like Trump coming from the left (in regards to their virtually nonexistent policy positions)"

Look the ex president of my country, chavez, he used the same tatic: first blame the establisment, them put himself into the "Just a regualr men, not related to anyone" to come across as incorruptable, them make everything a circus so he could beat everyone else and so own.

you want to see what happen? look my country how much a shithole it become, now make that bigger consider US influence and you get Trump

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#140080: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:34:10 PM

...Someone thin-skinned should not run for political office.

Do not obey in advance.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#140081: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:36:50 PM

[up][up] Venezuela's geopolitical situation is somewhat different from the United States economically though.

[up] While Trump is thin skinned, it's not without reason; the vast majority of his wealth comes from his brand, and anything that tarnishes his image is thus directly harmful to his fortune. It makes a certain degree of sense than, to do as much as possible to strongarm media into portraying him the way he wants to be portrayed.

edited 25th Sep '16 7:39:08 PM by CaptainCapsase

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#140082: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:38:37 PM

[up] Not to mention the US fucked around in that country with the CIA like most of their Central and South American neighbors.

edited 25th Sep '16 7:44:39 PM by Bat178

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#140083: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:40:48 PM

[up] While the CIA was in touch with the coup plotters in Venezuela and almost certainly gave their plan at least tacit approval (didn't this happen right after Chavez started making threats about cutting off oil to the US? As impractical as that would be that would absolutely have put him on the Bush administration's shit list) to the plotters, there's no evidence that American involvement went beyond that.

Though, of course, it's entirely possible 20 years down the line when things start being declassified we'll find out there was a lot more going on behind the scenes than we originally thought.

edited 25th Sep '16 7:42:45 PM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#140084: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:49:13 PM

@Shane Goldmacher 1h1 hour ago NEW: Cruz quietly began selling Trump his email list of supporters for $$$ three months before he endorsed

Cruz is a snake.

New Survey coming this weekend!
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#140085: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:50:52 PM

Venezuela cutting oil for the US would be like you shooting yourself in the face and then laughing because I got red on my shirt though.

Economically the US and Venezuela are different but the populist tactics Trump is using have a problem when applied to any democracy with enough disenfranchised voters: it works.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#140086: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:55:06 PM

This was Nixon's aid, who had the balls to admit it!

Meaningful Name then.note 

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#140087: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:55:44 PM

[up][up] Yes, but a demagogue taking power in Venezuela has drastically different consequences than in the United States.

edited 25th Sep '16 7:55:59 PM by CaptainCapsase

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#140088: Sep 25th 2016 at 7:58:04 PM

While the geopolitcal situation is diferent, the narrative is not, chavez used the same "establishment is to blame, im just concern person so I dont have agenda, everything is their fault, everyone except me is stupid, if you give ALL THE POWAH, everything will be just fiiiiiiiiine"

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#140089: Sep 25th 2016 at 8:03:15 PM

[up] Was there another anti-establishment candidate running in the same election with much more constructive ideas per chance?

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#140090: Sep 25th 2016 at 8:38:05 PM

[up]No, just regular politicians that wouldn't change the status quo drastically.

Constructive ideas and all weren't much of an issue here and there, nearly all of the serious candidates had solid ideas to build the country, but they didn't tackle the lack of belief in the political process and the population's irritation with the political establishment.

edited 25th Sep '16 8:40:16 PM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#140091: Sep 26th 2016 at 12:06:44 AM

Pretty much, in the 90 people where tie of politics and parties as whole and thing where pretty bad, also Chavez unlike Trump clearly belive his ideas and look more coherent unlike donald whol plataform can be sum up in "what me, Donald trump, feel in this particular moment that you, worthless being,s hould know" but in general our oposition was weak, porly cordinated and did what Obama and H Ilary try to avoid: fight him in his own terms, which end with oposition being beaten over and over and over like idiots.

While the conditions are diferent, I see similiarity in what happen in my country and US(and maybe Bretexit) the idea establishment=bad while the proponent is "just a citizen" (which much of the time they are very part of the establishment) while this is reaching conspiracy levels, I could said this is part of a trent right now

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#140092: Sep 26th 2016 at 3:13:34 AM

How long till the debate starts?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#140094: Sep 26th 2016 at 4:44:13 AM

[up]That means in about 13 and a half hours, for those who, like me, are from another country and want to watch it.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#140095: Sep 26th 2016 at 4:48:09 AM

[up] Which is about 0100-0200 GMT.

Keep Rolling On
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#140096: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:19:08 AM

I guess we'll see the aftermath tomorrow.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#140097: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:29:54 AM

I'm gonna need more alcohol before this thing starts. Who feels like setting up a drinking game? Take a shot anytime Donald calls hillary crooked and Clinton calls trump unpresidential.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#140098: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:48:01 AM

I've seen this drinking game proposal:

Drink every time:

Trump cites 'many people'

Trump says 'believe me'

Trump calls Clinton crooked/corrupt/lyin'

They don't answer the question

The wall is mentioned

Putin gets a compliment

Take a shot if:

Clinton coughs

Trump brings up Bill's infidelity

Trump brings up body parts (e.g. bleeding from 'where ever', the size of his 'hands')

Also: drink the whole time candidates are talking after their time has run out.

edited 26th Sep '16 5:48:17 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#140099: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:48:58 AM

Take a sip every time Trumps goes on and on about nothing.

Congrats, you're dead!

Also chug down the entire bottle if Trump calls Hillary a bitch or a cunt.

Because that means Trump will lose the election. Might as well drink the celebratory drink now. [lol]

edited 26th Sep '16 5:50:50 AM by NoName999

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#140100: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:49:41 AM

So 12 hours from now, according to my clock. Dammit, I'll be alseep by then. Oh well, I'll settle for a summary (and maybe a replay) afterwards.

Clinton, don't you dare let Trump win this.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

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