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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139602: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:41:56 PM

[up][up][up]Right, but that was months ahead of time, when we could imagine that things would shift before the day, or that he might come up with a better plan. This is too close for that sort of thing to still apply.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139604: Sep 22nd 2016 at 2:52:33 PM

Both candidates should have their feet held to the fire, but I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that their is bias against Hillary in the case of Fox and against Trump when it comes to CNN and the rest. CNN especially. Just recently they edited out Hillary mentioning a bombing in New York preemptively and then had the audacity to condemn Trump for jumping the gun and praise Hillary. There isn't much they can do about it. I heard that Hillary's strategy was to let Trump talk and reveal how ridiculous he is. I really think she should agressively hammer away at his negatives.

edited 22nd Sep '16 3:06:39 PM by 940131

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#139605: Sep 22nd 2016 at 2:58:18 PM

[up] Hopefully on policy. Because if the debates turn into a battle of the personalities, there's no way Clinton can match Trump's sheer bombast.

940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139606: Sep 22nd 2016 at 3:01:21 PM

[up] I was talking about policy, but she could also bring up his racism, sexism and xenophobia.Trumps been a lot softer since he imploded during and in the aftermath of the DNC. He's been making headway with minorities and is going to win a lot of the white vote. There's a chance he can beat her. Se needs to do what Obama did to Romney in 2012. Hammer away at his negatives. Make people know that she's the only choice.

One of his more ridiculous suggestions was that the US steal Iraqs oil even though he wants to pull out.

edited 22nd Sep '16 3:08:04 PM by 940131

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#139607: Sep 22nd 2016 at 3:32:53 PM

Is he now trying to claim CNN is biased against Trump? Newsflash—neither they nor anybody else in the media has done nearly a good enough job of taking Trump to task.

940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139608: Sep 22nd 2016 at 3:37:11 PM

It's pretty obvious. There sister network blurred a hero cop Trump supporters shirt, the bombing edit, removing Bill Clinton saying frequently, when Trump said profiling they added racial.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#139609: Sep 22nd 2016 at 3:38:23 PM

Pretty sure these days "bias" just means "won't report purely according to my narrative".

"Yup. That tasted purple."
940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139610: Sep 22nd 2016 at 3:42:06 PM

According to who's narrative? They blurred the Trump logo on a hero cops shirt. They've run chyrons fact checking Trump (and they should), but they don't do the same for Hillary. Before Hillary's collapse they hammered away at Trumps health while downplaying right wingers that questioned Hillary's.

edited 22nd Sep '16 3:48:32 PM by 940131

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#139611: Sep 22nd 2016 at 3:53:26 PM

How are we defining "hero cop" in this context?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#139612: Sep 22nd 2016 at 3:56:24 PM

Y'know, with all this flak about the Confederate flag, somebody ought to make an opposite of the General Lee car, just for the helluvit.

Instead of orange, paint it blue. Instead of a Confederate flag on the roof, put Old Glory (aka, the Stars and Stripes) up there. Instead of "01" make its number "10." Name it the "General Grant" or the "Honest Abe," and have the horn play the first bar of the Battle Hymn of the Republic, instead of "Dixie."

Whaddaya think? Should it be a Dodge Challenger instead of a Charger? Or should we go whole hog and build it on a GM or Ford platform instead, just to give the metaphorical finger?

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#139613: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:09:08 PM

[up][up] The cop who killed the person going on a killing spree (which ISIS claimed responsibility for) in Minnesota IIRC.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#139614: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:10:30 PM

Also keep in mind that the blurring could also have been at the request of the department due to them not wanting to be associated with the campaign.

Not everything is a media conspiracy.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#139615: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:18:12 PM

They've run chyrons fact checking Trump (and they should), but they don't do the same for Hillary.

It may surprise you to learn this but Trump lies more than Clinton does. Frankly, they haven't fact checked him near enough.

Before Hillary's collapse they hammered away at Trumps health while downplaying right wingers that questioned Hillary's

Rightfully so. The conspiracy nuts have repeatedly tried to claim she's dying, while conversely, Trump hasn't released his medical records and had his doctor publish fraudulent ones.

You seem to be falling prey to the Golden Mean Fallacy, assuming that the candidates are equally bad and that if the press doesn't bash them both equally they are biased. Trump is the worse candidate, hands down. That's why he gets the flak that he does. That he doesn't get more flak is arguably evidence of bias in the opposite direction.

They blurred the Trump logo on a hero cops shirt.

If the "hero cop" was wearing a swastika or a Confederate flag would you be as against them blurring it out?

edited 22nd Sep '16 4:25:44 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#139616: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:27:06 PM

Trump vows to use "other people's money"
He's shown a knack for that.
expanding NATO to Russia's borders was dangerous
I'm not getting into the whole rest of the Russia v. US debate, but just to point out, it's not like the US is strong-arming anyone into joining NATO. Those countries are asking to join it. If their leadership (and/or voting public) decide for themselves that they would rather sign up with the US in NATO, than with Russia, then I don't see why Russia suddenly has a veto power over that decision.

Aprilla! *waves* How's hell Arkansas hell? tongue

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139617: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:32:28 PM

[up]x6 A cop that saved a baby from overheating in a locked car.

[up]x3 That's the conspiracy and it's easily debunked. He was a retired cop. Now, if the cop had been wearing a Hillary shirt... would they have blurred it? Inconceivable.

[up]x2 1) I'm not quite sure how you came to the conclusion that Trump is a bigger liar. They both lie all the time.

2) That's irrelevant. Hillary's the one who looks sick. If Trump was tired, having coughing fits, stumbling, had problems with his memory etc. it would be a bigger issue.

3) Worse in what way?

4) Godwins Law. Not all Trump supporters are sexist, racist, islamaphobix, xenephobic, homophobes.

[up] And the Cubans wanted a better relationship with the USSR. How did the US react.

edited 22nd Sep '16 4:48:09 PM by 940131

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#139618: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:36:01 PM

[up]So a cop doing what they he is 'supposed to do.

Inter arma enim silent leges
940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139619: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:42:20 PM

[up] He was an ex-cop that saved a baby. But he was also a Trump supporter so they blurred out the Trump logo, because no Trump supporter can be a good person. No Trump supporter can be heroic.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#139620: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:44:00 PM

[up]Oh sure, he can be heroic, he still stupid enough to support Trump.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#139621: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:46:12 PM

Well when you support someone who feeds of the power of white supremacy it has a funny effect on how people treat you.

940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139622: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:46:23 PM

[up]x2 Well apparently Trump supporters can't be heroic because they blurred his shirt. Did they think no one was going to notice?

edited 22nd Sep '16 4:47:05 PM by 940131

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#139623: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:51:00 PM

[up]Honestly I don't care, they could have blurred his face and written his name with a typo and I wouldn't give a flying fuck about it.

Inter arma enim silent leges
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#139624: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:54:09 PM

1) I'm not quite sure how you came to the conclusion that Trump is a bigger liar. They both lie all the time.
Trump tells bigger lies, more lies, and more bigger lies, than Hillary does. And he's been doing it for his whole damn life in the public eye.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139625: Sep 22nd 2016 at 4:58:01 PM

[up]x2 Whether you care or not is completely irrelevant. Personally, I thought it was funny. The point is that there is a media bias against Trump from many outlets, but CNN in particular. That's not debatable. Hell, in the primaries they admitted it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc5p5mD08D4

[up] Well, how do you measure a lie and how do you know he's just not wrong? They're both prolific liars.

edited 22nd Sep '16 5:01:33 PM by 940131


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