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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#139576: Sep 22nd 2016 at 10:46:00 AM

At this point I wouldn't mind seeing some old-fashioned flag turnings, as much as I know it would be like walking into the sort of bar that would hang a Confederate flag wearing a blue suit and playing "Yankee Doodle".

edited 22nd Sep '16 10:48:26 AM by Elle

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#139577: Sep 22nd 2016 at 10:54:57 AM

So Donald Trump has finally started spending like he's running for president.

A massive chunk has gone into online ads, hence why you're starting to see them freaking everywhere.

Considering Clinton has more money than him, this is a smart move. I've said this before, but my reading of Trump pegs him as a great deal more devious than most people around these parts give him credit for.

He's a failure of a businessmen, but if there's one thing he actually knows, it's marketing.

edited 22nd Sep '16 10:58:11 AM by CaptainCapsase

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#139578: Sep 22nd 2016 at 11:00:20 AM

Here in Georgia the Confederate flag is held in the same standard as the Christian cross.

The post facto Christianity semiotic is an important element in exculpating the moral and cultural deficiencies encoded in the Confederate flag itself. It's similar to how quasi-Christian religiosity was infused in anti-communist rhetoric during the Cold War.

edited 22nd Sep '16 11:01:21 AM by Aprilla

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#139580: Sep 22nd 2016 at 11:15:57 AM

If the turnout is anything like the last election, it'll increase his chances.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#139581: Sep 22nd 2016 at 11:16:35 AM

[up][up] Mind you, it'll probably leak out anyway...

edited 22nd Sep '16 11:18:29 AM by Greenmantle

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#139582: Sep 22nd 2016 at 11:58:04 AM

The Crooked Hillary meme is driving me up the fucking wall

It's been repeated so many times that I see people all over the Internet and a few in real life just kind of assume that she's some kind of Nixonesque criminal mastermind when she's pretty much just another politician, with all the pros and cons that go along with that.

Maybe that's why people have such a strong dislike for her, even among those who aren't Trump voters?

I take solace in the idea that it's basically her version of "THANKS, OBAMA".

I would not mind eight years of bitter Conservatives trotting out "Crooked Hillary!" comments as they whine about whatever awesome thing President Clinton's done lately.

Poll: 78 Percent of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

I find it pretty shocking...that there are over 20% of Latinos who DON'T have a negative view on Trump.

It's a fairly sizable umbrella, and not all groups of people who fall under it get along. There are Cubans and Puerto Ricans and the like who just love the idea of kicking all the Mexicans out and don't seem to realize that Trump can't really tell them apart. tongue

A bunch of guys in pick-up trucks with Confederate flags tried to harass and intimidate a Somali neighborhood after the stabbing spree in St. Cloud, MN. So that racist symbol isn't limited to just the south, unfortunately.

I actually saw one of those here in Colorado a couple months back. Big, black pickup truck with two confederate flags mounted on the back.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#139583: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:09:41 PM

As a black Arkansan who's grown up around this since Day 1, the large swaths of Trump signs (and a lot of unchecked bigotry coming from many white, male liberals) don't really phase me all that much because, if you know your history and if you've been paying attention, you will know that it's always been this bad. Or to paraphrase someone else, it's not an degradation, but an unveiling.

This is something I've had to confront in my own life because Trump doesn't seem to be an isolated phenonemon; similar politicians are springing up in a lot of different countries these days. It's sort of chilling, because around the time I developed my current understanding of social issues, I was also made aware of the fact that an openly racist, sexist, homophobic and dictatorship apologist politician was gaining a sizable amount of support in my own country. I grew up in a fairly sheltered and well-off household, so the sheer amount of bigotry and callous indifference that are implicit in the support of such a politician was pretty eye-opening, and not in a good way.

The arguments in his favor are also eerily similar to ones made for Trump, many of them revolving around the idea that they're less corrupt than their fellow politicians or "can't be bought", as if their repugnant political positions were just completely irrelevant in the face of that. It really says a lot about the priorities of people supporting them, and their ideas of what integrity actually means.

Also, it's nice to see you again Aprilla.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#139584: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:10:06 PM

[up][up] That's unlikely; the "Crooked Hillary" thing is directly from Trump, much like he branded Cruz as "Lyin' Ted" during the primaries, and Rubio as "Little Marco."

edited 22nd Sep '16 12:12:01 PM by CaptainCapsase

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#139585: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:20:17 PM

Also, it's nice to see you again Aprilla.

Thanks, but I'm making it a point to keep TV Tropes at arms length for the most part.

I'm trying to stay out of fights.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#139586: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:24:50 PM

Aw, I miss you though.

But fair enough.

Oh really when?
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#139587: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:33:52 PM

nes de La Cuetara Verified account ‏@Inesd LC Pence: "Trump and I believe there's been far too much talk about institutional bias and racism within law enforcement"

UGGGGGGGGGHHH

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#139588: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:34:33 PM

Yeah, I miss you too, Aprilla. It's nice seeing you again. Hope you and Gabrael are doing well.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#139589: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:38:19 PM

[up][up]Because not talking about it has done so well to assuage the problem.

edited 22nd Sep '16 12:38:46 PM by AceofSpades

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#139590: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:41:18 PM

This might be me but it also smells vaguely anti-intellectualist, like "people are thinking WAY too hard about this".

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#139591: Sep 22nd 2016 at 12:42:47 PM

Welcome back.

[up]That's more like it, Trump and his ilk line of thought is pretty much this: don't think about it, surrender everything to me and I will make things better.

edited 22nd Sep '16 12:45:01 PM by AngelusNox

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#139592: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:05:26 PM

That's where the strongman thing comes in

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#139593: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:19:40 PM

Trump tells Lester Holt: Don’t fact-check debates

...Apparently he doesn't want to be called out for lying during the presidential debates.

This should be fun.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#139594: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:21:09 PM

In other news, August was officially the 16th month in a row that was the "Hottest <insert month> on record". And sadly, Sen. Jim Inhofe (the one that brought a snowball onto the Senate floor to "disprove" global warming's existence) is still the Chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee for the Senate.

[up]

The article does explain Trump's reasoning as wanting the candidates to call each other out - of course, that would both lead to havoc and give Trump the edge due to his (false) reputation for Brutal Honesty compared to Clinton's reputation for "Crooked Hillary".

edited 22nd Sep '16 1:26:25 PM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#139595: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:21:36 PM

[up] He's trying to cow the debate moderators like he cowed various media outlets by banning reporters. He'll scream bias until they're eating out of the palms of his hands.

I really hope they don't cave, but the list of topics for the first debate isn't encouraging.

edited 22nd Sep '16 1:22:33 PM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#139596: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:23:14 PM

It's just sad how thin his skin is. Like Christ man, you're running for President, comes with the job description.

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139597: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:23:16 PM

Man, if he's worried about that with this little time left... and trying to deal with it in such an ineffectual way...

I mean, honestly, that strikes me as less trying to win so much as trying pre-empt the damage losing the debate will do.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#139598: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:27:12 PM

Then again he also called for Anderson Cooper to be sacked as one of the mods as well.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#139599: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:27:12 PM

[up][up] This has been going on for a while. He was threatening not to show up a few months back.

[up] Cooper actually went hard on him during the primaries so no wonder.

edited 22nd Sep '16 1:27:48 PM by CaptainCapsase

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#139600: Sep 22nd 2016 at 1:28:29 PM

Anderson Cooper

On a side note, doesn't his name sound like a high-end firm of Lawyers or an Investment Bank?

edited 22nd Sep '16 1:28:46 PM by Greenmantle

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