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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#139051: Sep 18th 2016 at 10:15:34 PM

Why so surprised? there are already porn parodies of this election cycle, a Trump game is the least shocking content.

Not even mention the horrors spawning from Fanfiction.net

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#139052: Sep 18th 2016 at 10:44:12 PM

I wonder if this election season will give the House Of Cards writers a blank check to go balls out batshit crazy and then when fans cry foul they point to 2016 and say "Hey, it's not that crazy."

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#139053: Sep 18th 2016 at 11:08:07 PM

They already made jokes about that during the Emmys.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Perian Since: Jun, 2016
#139054: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:18:09 AM

As unpopular as the sentiment is, the party's national committees' job is not to do exactly what the primary voters want all the time without exception. Otherwise you'd just do a nationwide popular vote of party members and you could ditch the entire rest of the primary process. The whole thing with the Democratic primary and superdelegates? That would have prevented Trump from getting the nomination had the Republicans used a similar system. And yet, the Democrats are dismantling that system because Sanders supporters complained about it (despite Sanders' loss having nothing to do with superdelegates). Sigh.

So why not have the equivalent of 'superdelegates' in the general election as well? That way someone like Trump can never be elected at all. Unless I'm misreading what you said (in which case I apologize - I don't want to put words in your mouth), you're basically advocating that 'there are perceived flaws in a democratic system, so let's make it more oligarchical'. The Republicans could also have easily prevented someone like Trump from winning the nomination if they had not tried to appeal to racist sentiment and therefore normalized these ideas (this is exactly how the far right grew in popularity in Europe as well, by the way).

And you shouldn't portray Sanders supporters as uninformed, since aside from possibly preventing future progressives from winning the Democratic nomination, the superdelegates also had an effect on this primary race: they were reported together with the regular delegates in the media, which made Clinton's lead appear to be insurmountable at all stages of the primaries (in New Hampshire, for example, Clinton won as much delegates as Sanders, despite the fact that Sanders won the primary with a larger than 20% margin).

edited 19th Sep '16 2:18:27 AM by Perian

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#139055: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:36:11 AM

[up][up][up]They already had a presidential candidate's father involved with the KKK.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#139056: Sep 19th 2016 at 3:47:42 AM

These games look more like parodies than the real thing. Poe's Law aside - while Trump is completely impossible to parody, that doesn't mean he can't be made to look like...as much of a joke as he is.

In other news, Alaska Senator finally sues Governor Bill Walker for illegal cut to the Permanent Fund Dividend. While his legal reasoning seems pretty sound, I'm doubtful it'll succeed - the lawsuit is mainly a re-election stunt and in any case we won't get the balance of our dividends until the suit resolves.

Maybe our protestors need better signs. Like, say, movie posters.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#139057: Sep 19th 2016 at 4:05:36 AM

A Trump political simulator would be singular in that the straight and parodic versions would be identical. You would start in a crime- and poverty-ridden America, and when elected, woud have one option: BUILD A WALL. And after you make Mexico magically pay for it, suddenly, America becomes Great Again™.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#139058: Sep 19th 2016 at 5:18:48 AM

How about a realistic simulator where the goal is to BUILD A WALL. Eventually the player realizes this task is all but impossible- technically it is possible, but it would take hours and hours of boring, tedious gameplay- so they just give up and go do something else tongue

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#139059: Sep 19th 2016 at 5:22:20 AM

Construction Simulator 2016. Except you don't get any budget.

Until you finally get one when the government realizes that Mexico will never pay. As such they end up raising taxes. In Texas, this is seen as a betrayal, and the game ends up being a survival where you try to escape overarmed rednecks on their pickups who, for once, stop looking after the illegal migrants and go after the people responsible for the wall.

edited 19th Sep '16 5:24:48 AM by Julep

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Lost in Space
#139060: Sep 19th 2016 at 6:28:59 AM

Krugman: Vote as if it Matters

Does it make sense to vote for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate for president? Sure, as long as you believe two things. First, you have to believe that it makes no difference at all whether Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump moves into the White House — because one of them will. Second, you have to believe that America will be better off in the long run if we eliminate environmental regulation, abolish the income tax, do away with public schools, and dismantle Social Security and Medicare — which is what the Libertarian platform calls for.

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#139061: Sep 19th 2016 at 7:32:11 AM

So why not have the equivalent of 'superdelegates' in the general election as well?
Because the federal government has checks and balances built into it — the primary does not. Even if the president advocates for something blatantly unconstitutional — like, say, refusing to let Muslims into the country based solely on their religion — then he has to convince Congress to pass a law to that effect. And even if they manage that, then the Supreme Court will stand up and say "lol, no". So even if we elect a complete madman, they won't be able to instantly turn the entire country to shit, because of checks and balances in the government.

It behooves the parties to make sure that they don't nominate a madman in the first place, though. Primaries, by their very nature, are easier to game than general elections are. Because they're a smaller voting pool to begin with, and turnout tends to be lower even among those eligible to participate, the vocal minority becomes louder. Superdelegates act as a buffer against this effect.

And for the record, superdelegates only actually consist of about 15% of the total delegate count. In 2016, there were 712 superdelegates out of 4,763 total votes. That's enough to tip the scales in a tightly contested race (where two candidates have nearly 50% each), or play kingmaker in a primary with a wide field (eg, four or five major candidates each with a sizable chunk of the pledged delegates), but not enough to overturn a popular decision for a single candidate.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#139062: Sep 19th 2016 at 7:40:03 AM

[up][up] Don't worry, I'm not voting for Gary this time around. Two reasons: One, I've altered my viewpoint on libertarian platforms since then, and two, the election's too important to take votes away from Hillary.

[up] "And even if they manage that, then the Supreme Court will stand up and say "lol, no"."

Again, the point is rendered moot if the Supreme Court is majorly made of GOPers.

edited 19th Sep '16 7:41:48 AM by speedyboris

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#139063: Sep 19th 2016 at 7:48:06 AM

Though maybe pragmatists like Roberts and Kennedy won't go too far, if only to retain the Court's legitimacy. That's probably the reason Roberts saved the ACA. But if Scalia, Ginsberg and maybe Bayer get replaced by Trump wackjobs (assuming the Dems don't retain enough Senate seats to give the GOP a taste of their own obstruction medicine and say "No" before they Rs finish their sentence) there's going to be trouble.

Also, found a good op-ed stating that while "October Surprises" historically have little impact on Elections, this election is anything but normal and changing technology (and people committed to stopping one of the candidates) should actually bring out a story that sticks in the following weeks.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/19/opinions/october-election-surprise-zelizer/index.html

edited 19th Sep '16 8:02:43 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#139064: Sep 19th 2016 at 8:00:17 AM

It's very important to hammer the young (18-25 year old) voters on the elections-have-consequences thing, the younger end of that cohort won't have well-formed memories of the Bush Administration and was barely alive in the 2000 election itself.

It's unfortunate that some of the people who think that both sides are the same are beyond recall, but most of them could probably be sobered up with a well-reasoned argument.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#139066: Sep 19th 2016 at 8:34:00 AM

CNN just reported that authorities have captured the bombing suspect after a shootout.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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#139068: Sep 19th 2016 at 8:57:54 AM

[up][up][up][up] The young almost unanimously side with Clinton over Trump in a two-person race, so the best option for the Democratic Party to retain young people is to make sure that people only know about those two options. Clinton and Trump are just derisive candidates for the vast majority of Americans. It's hard to convince people to vote when they see a bad option and a worse option, and that is what both candidates are seen as by the voters. It also makes sense that both candidates would be unpopular... Trump's a detestable bigot and Clinton has been dogged with accusations for over 25 years. No matter how false those accusations against Clinton are, it is hard to overcome over 25 years of propaganda.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#139069: Sep 19th 2016 at 9:17:46 AM

Now Trump is claiming that racial profiling is a good idea. Oy....

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#139070: Sep 19th 2016 at 9:20:44 AM

Jonathan Allen ‏@jonallendc 4m4 minutes ago NYT: Federal prosecutors say Chris Christie knew about bridge lane closings in real time.
Lmfao

Oh man if he was VP trump would be so fucked

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#139071: Sep 19th 2016 at 9:32:39 AM

How did they go from him sleeping to a shootout?

Oh well,they caught him alive,but at the expense of injured officers

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/37399898

edited 19th Sep '16 9:32:56 AM by Ultimatum

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940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#139072: Sep 19th 2016 at 10:18:40 AM

[up]x3 What false accusations.

America and it's allies are being subjected to more and more terrorist attacks. I hope, whoever becomes the next President will address the grievaces of many muslims in a more intelligent way, but I doubt it. I don't think invading their countries and trying to democratize them by force helps.

edited 19th Sep '16 10:24:02 AM by 940131

LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#139073: Sep 19th 2016 at 10:43:42 AM

They could start by applying some actual pressure to "allied" nations such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia in order for them to stop being such fundamentalism-srpeading, terrorist-hosting shitholes.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#139074: Sep 19th 2016 at 10:44:56 AM

Why do we bend over for Pakistan again?

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#139075: Sep 19th 2016 at 10:46:02 AM

[up]Same answer as usual: we have military bases in their territory that we want to keep.

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