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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Anti-Establishment folks.
Under Trump? Who inherited his financial empire, who is steeped in classical consumerist culture, who for the past two decades has been the face of "the fat cats of Wall Street". That guy.
Okay then, if you say so
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you![]()
He's not a politician. For some people, that is enough to brand him as permanently anti-establishment, even more so than Johnson. (Whose anti-establishment cred I don't get, seeing as he was a former governor, that literally makes him part of the establishment.)
edited 16th Sep '16 6:26:27 AM by BlueNinja0
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - SilaswCapase we've already convinced Clinton and the Democrats to adopt significant parts of Sanders' platform. Whining about not getting everything and potentially electing Trump is the opposite of what these idiots should be doing. If they want to be taken seriously then they need to show up and vote to prove these ideas aren't a political dead end.
I agree. The trouble is, as you've probably noticed, it's looking increasingly possible that Clinton will lose. Which is why I'm concerned it might already be too late to direct the current populist animus in a constructive direction.
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2008 was the second worst economic meltdown in history. The reaction has been somewhat delayed compare to the Great Depression, but all of what's happening now has happened before.
edited 16th Sep '16 6:43:11 AM by CaptainCapsase
Sanders has tried, but these people never supported him, they were never pro-Bernie, they were just anti-Hillary and latching onto the first possible outlet.
edited 16th Sep '16 6:51:25 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran![]()
I...disagree that that's the reason it's wrong, but that applies too I guess.
Hey! that was my pet conspiracy theory about Trump!
edited 16th Sep '16 7:08:59 AM by blkwhtrbbt
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for youYou know, the worst thing about his election is the likelyhood center and left in the US will immediately turn on each other in a sort of circular firing squad if Clinton loses. You'll see an equal number of articles saying we should have nominated Sanders wnd blaming Sanders for a the loss.
While in the meantime, stock markets go into free fall, and Trump sits in the Oval Office lining his pockets and passing everything the GOP puts before him like a good little puppet.
edited 16th Sep '16 7:35:52 AM by CaptainCapsase
Sanders didn't win because he couldn't figure out how to get people outside of working-class whites to come to his cause. What worries me is that these working-class whites will fuck up and vote for the person that will ruin their lives forever yet cater to his will because of how thoroughly brainwashed they are by him.
The lack of a proper education can be devastating for someone who's going through hard times.
edited 16th Sep '16 7:49:16 AM by Mario1995
"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Among non-youth voters at least. He actually did better among young Hispanic and Asian-Americans than young whites. Beyond the urban rural divide there's also a huge youth-older voter divide, and if Trump gets elected, it'll be like Brexit where it happens in spite of opposition by young voters.
edited 16th Sep '16 7:52:59 AM by CaptainCapsase
To jump back a few pages, didn't southpark already do this joke during bush/gore?
For some context on how this race is compared to 2012 let's jump back to 538's
2012 tracker. On this day Obama was sitting at 75% odds before peaking at the start of October and then dropping hard by mid-October to 60% and then climbing all the way up to 90 by election day.
Main thing to take away from looking at the data is that things can change drastically but a full flip is very unlikely. Clinton probably can't coast to victory but a good debate showing and some more shit from trump could easily keep her numbers steady till election day.
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?I think I have some idea, considering how much they like to remind us.
Anyway, for the sake of making this post relevant, I've been pondering if a Trump presidency really is likely. My basis was this: Trump has his supporters locked down, while many of those against Trump seem to still hate Hillary too much to even considering voting for her, so they'll either vote third-party not at all. I then added that even if Hillary does win, it'll be a really close game.
On the forum I posted this in, someone responded that Hillary still has a decent chance, saying that Trump will never get the majority of Hispanic and black votes, and linking to these
websites
.
I just hope all this remains consistent through November...
EDIT: Basically I hope what
described happens
edited 16th Sep '16 8:08:04 AM by PhysicalStamina
i'm tired, my friendIf Trump ever has a chance of winning, it would be by winning all of the swing states and having very high white voter turnout. Trump would have to have like, what? More than 60% of white votes? And that could be very, very difficult for Trump to pull off....
.....unless we enter a Bush/Gore situation and the electoral college ends up handing the presidency to Trump in spite of losing the popular vote.
"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher

Also some people don't think about the implications of libertarian policy; just take them at face value.