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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#138776: Sep 15th 2016 at 8:27:49 PM

I think it is something to be glad about. I'm voting for a candidate who's policies I approve of, and who I feel is right for the job. I don't see how I shouldn't be okay with that.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#138777: Sep 15th 2016 at 8:32:21 PM

There's always room for improvement. If we're not allowed to be happy until someone perfect comes along we'll never be happy.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#138778: Sep 15th 2016 at 9:46:33 PM

So, did anyone watch the new episode of South Park? Because for better or worse, and whatever you might think of the show or the writers, their perspective of things is probably pretty common.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#138779: Sep 15th 2016 at 9:53:04 PM

And their perspective is?

Oh God! Natural light!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#138780: Sep 15th 2016 at 9:54:27 PM

Drump is a giant douche, and Clinton a turd who can only win if Trump intentionally fucks up.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#138781: Sep 15th 2016 at 9:55:46 PM

Exactly why I hate SP as of late. False Equivalencies, and Matt and Trey are Libertarians, so that's an almost guarantee that their politics in the show will be asinine

New Survey coming this weekend!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#138782: Sep 15th 2016 at 9:57:26 PM

Well, they've always hate Hilary Clinton so it's not really surprising. I'm wondering how widespread the thought that Trump is intentionally trying to lose is.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#138783: Sep 15th 2016 at 10:05:01 PM

Not very common actually. Only real idiots who firmly believe there aren't real systemic issues with our country believe that.

Like say, the creators of Southpark.

Oh really when?
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#138784: Sep 15th 2016 at 10:07:31 PM

edit: nvm, misread.

edited 15th Sep '16 10:08:01 PM by Draghinazzo

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138785: Sep 15th 2016 at 10:08:46 PM

I've always thought the 'Trump is trying to lose' viewpoint was giving him way too much credit.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#138786: Sep 15th 2016 at 10:10:31 PM

[up][up][up]They do seem to believe that though, which makes it weirder.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#138787: Sep 15th 2016 at 10:12:32 PM

If Trump really was a plant and trying to lose, that takes "Taking on for the team" to an almost unprecedented level.

New Survey coming this weekend!
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#138788: Sep 16th 2016 at 12:32:50 AM

Here's a question:

Has anyone else donated to a political campagin this season? And if so, have you also been rewarded by receiving five or six spam emails from that campaign every day?

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#138789: Sep 16th 2016 at 1:08:36 AM

@Tactical Fox 88: No, and in the process of putting words in my mouth, you completely and utterly missed my point. I said "when the lights are off," and I meant it.

The GOP are currently under the control of reactionary lunatics, but we know what they're doing and we can stop them at the ballot box. Democrats are not reactionary lunatics, but they are politicians - they only behave well when the voters are dogging their steps and keeping them from making under-the-radar deals with vested interests. The NSA, by its very nature, is a secretive organization, and secrecy breeds corruption - the same goes for other security organizations. That means that they need aggressive lights shone on their interior workings, something which Democrats and Republicans alike have every reason not to want.

The last thing we want is a return to the CIA antics of the Cold War, which were (like the Swedish secret alliance with NATO) carried on outside the public eye and with no democratic accountability.

edited 16th Sep '16 1:09:03 AM by Ramidel

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#138790: Sep 16th 2016 at 3:21:40 AM

Jumping back several pages to Snowden, Russia, Latin America and maps: You forgot a step. Two, actually, He left from Hawaii. His rendezvous with the journalists was in Hong Kong. He was still there when the leak went public. After that was the aborted attempt to get to Latin America via Russia.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#138793: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:27:11 AM

For people who can dish it out, they sure can't take it.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#138794: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:29:23 AM

What a First Family they'd make...

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#138795: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:40:24 AM

One thing that's puzzling me...why are young, college-educated voters so enamored of Gary Johnson when he's promising to do absolutely nothing about student debt?

edited 16th Sep '16 5:40:43 AM by Ramidel

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#138796: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:42:33 AM

Libertarianism as a philosophical ideal is really popular with young adults who believe themselves to be the center of the universe and possessed of all possible wisdom; the idea that society should seek to govern the natural meritocracy that would occur if everyone were completely free to do what they wish is intolerable.

I should know; I went through that phase myself, partly thanks to infusions of Robert A. Heinlein and Tom Clancy.

edited 16th Sep '16 5:45:32 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#138797: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:47:24 AM

The rejection of the high debt burden expected of college students is far from universal. It's been part of "the way things are" for several generations now and approval of a libertarian platform implies they don't care about it.

([nja])

edited 16th Sep '16 5:47:56 AM by Elle

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#138798: Sep 16th 2016 at 6:07:03 AM

Thin skin is a dominant hereditary trait, apparently.

That's why the debates will be so fun. All Hillary has to do is needle him on just the right thing and he'll be derailed for the rest of the evening trying to prove that he isn't X or Y.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#138799: Sep 16th 2016 at 6:07:35 AM

[up][up][up]The system should strive to promote the most individual freedom (or individual expression) for its citizens possible without its stability becoming too compromised for it to be sustainable. It's a tough balancing act to be sure, but doable.

edited 16th Sep '16 6:09:51 AM by nervmeister

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#138800: Sep 16th 2016 at 6:08:17 AM

If he curses her out on stage do you think they'll cut away?

Edit: My "favorite" people are the ones that backed Sanders and switched to Johnson. It's clear that they don't give a damn about his policies. They just want to stick it to the evil establishment.

edited 16th Sep '16 6:09:33 AM by Kostya


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