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#138351: Sep 12th 2016 at 9:36:23 PM

It is tame. But remember, perceptions are everything.

Some people are perceiving it to be much worse than it actually is.

edited 12th Sep '16 9:36:41 PM by Nightlikeday

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#138352: Sep 12th 2016 at 10:08:50 PM

Sadly, that page on Pepe will probably lead to Trump supporters using Pepe to show their support and lead to criticism for Clinton.

edited 12th Sep '16 10:09:51 PM by GameGuruGG

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#138353: Sep 12th 2016 at 10:13:36 PM

They already were using racist Pepes prior to this, this doesn’t change a thing.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
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#138354: Sep 12th 2016 at 10:15:44 PM

I wouldn't dismiss the power of symbols that fast. The fact that Trump is embracing them, just makes this use of pepe stronger than ever.

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#138355: Sep 12th 2016 at 10:16:46 PM

I mean normal people like half of everyone's Facebook and Twitter feed, not the Alt-Right specifically.

edited 12th Sep '16 10:19:28 PM by GameGuruGG

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#138356: Sep 12th 2016 at 10:30:12 PM

Said people will claim it's "ironic" or "It's a joak" if you point out unfortunate implications in that meme they shared (Christine Weston Chandler copped a lot of shit for Sonichu, but none of it was as batshit as social media today. Or even Keemstar). Again, nothing has changed on that front - /b/ culture became social media culture before they started complaining about "normies".

In case you missed it, yes, the Trump Foundation is slimier than most lampreys

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#138357: Sep 12th 2016 at 10:59:12 PM

[up]Insult To Lampreys: they can make tasty dishes and have enormous use in neurological research.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#138358: Sep 12th 2016 at 11:42:16 PM

I have heard that Troomp is one of the least charitable (supposed) billionaires in the world.

Why are Troomp supporters so sensitive?

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#138359: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:08:51 AM

Massive insecurity, like Trump himself. At the first sign of a threat, whether real or imagined, they lash out blindly.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#138360: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:22:45 AM

[up] What's kind of darkly amusing about that is that with almost no exceptions they would say that we are too sensitive and "politically correct" as a society.

This is something I've really picked up on recently. Just because someone thinks everyone else is too easily offended doesn't mean they won't get even more offended themselves when it's their sensibilities being contradicted.

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A procrastination in of itself
#138361: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:31:37 AM

Clinton apparently has a much smaller lead with Millennials against Trump than Obama does, to the tune of 18 points. As such I think Clinton is right on the money with her backet of deplorables comment, that's the kind of stuff that the Obama supporting 18-24 demographic will eat up.[1]

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#138362: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:55:39 AM

[up][up]It actually makes sense. They don't see politically incorrect things as bad because of their meaning but think it is because people are just sensitive. Because that's how they themselves work.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#138363: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:13:40 AM

[up][up] It's not likely to work. Clinton's lead with younger millenials is so small because she's bleeding to third parties. Trump has even less support than Romney from that demographic.

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Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#138364: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:21:45 AM

Mainstream internet news comments tend to be a right-wing breeding ground because leftists tend not to read mainstream internet news*, combined with foreign sock-puppet campaigns that took steam during the Obama years (otherwise the sock-puppets probably would be more left-wing) and the fact that these cesspits are unmoderated, which tends to draw out the most extreme views because sensible opinions tend to get drowned out by people who think the apocalypse is coming because we're letting men sleep with men.

  • this one's got a big ol' caveat, some sites do get more left readership, like New York Times, although i think they might be moderated.

megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#138365: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:24:37 AM

And now for sports:

Kaepernick and Reid kneel again for season opener against Rams; other players (on both teams) raise fists. Several Seahawks players elected to lock arms for the anthem in Sunday's game vs. Dolphins; other players also started doing something other than stand in their respective season openers. Have to see if this persists.

Baltimore Orioles' Adam Jones on why no similar protests have begun in MLB: because "baseball is a white man's sport" (specifically citing that African-Americans made up only 8% of MLB rosters on Opening Day; the NFL and NBA are 50+%)

NCAA pulls 7 championship events out of North Carolina this academic year over bathroom law. D1 women's soccer, D3 men's and women's soccer, D1 men's basketball tournament first and second rounds (which will probably hurt Duke because they would be likely number 1 seed and those tend to be seeded close to their campus in early rounds to minimize travel; article also noted South Carolina is eligible to host NCAA events again after Confederate flag was pulled down), D1 women's golf, D3 tennis men's and women's, D1 women's lacrosse, D2 baseball. Article notes that NCAA has not yet made a decision on D1 football Belk Bowl (NCAA could decertify bowl which would make it illegal for college teams to play in bowl on pain of sanctions) but quotes inside source thinking that won't happen because two of the Power 5 conferences would lose out (SEC and ACC). Makes me think of what happened with Russia at this year's Olympics and Paralympics.

edited 13th Sep '16 6:26:56 AM by megarockman

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#138366: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:34:37 AM

[up]X3 And hitting to the left socially (by calling out the deplorables) is a good way to pick people up from third parties by assuring them that she's not part of the social establishment.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#138367: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:38:14 AM

Johnson's flub on Aleppo has lost him a few people. Not his diehards of course, but those who were levitating toward him out of convenience who also know what Aleppo is...

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#138368: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:39:04 AM

[up][up] That's not why people aren't voting for her, by and large.

edited 13th Sep '16 6:39:26 AM by CaptainCapsase

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#138369: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:43:11 AM

Johnson is not a serious candidate. He's running on what amounts to a fringe, vanity platform, and he is part of an ideology that fundamentally does not believe in government. Putting him in charge of our nation would be idiotic.

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#138370: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:43:50 AM

[up][up]I gotta agree with this one. We're not voting for a Clinton because we don't think they're part of the establishment.

Clintons are effectively nobility in American politics, and we know it.

[up]It always cracks me up when "anti-government" people run for government positions

edited 13th Sep '16 6:44:28 AM by blkwhtrbbt

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#138371: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:53:07 AM

The Kennedy family is nobility. The Clintons are a husband-wife team. We joked about Hillary receiving her "coronation" this year; it doesn't really seem like that looking at the media and political environment. It's more like she's being tossed to the lions, with not much more than the DNC at her back.

Frankly, this is the least favorable environment I have ever seen or heard of for an "heir apparent" candidate who's got the supposed momentum of inevitability behind her.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#138372: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:56:10 AM

Well, I think so too, but I'm just saying, she's hardly perceived as an outsider.

I'm voting for her because I believe her to be well-intentioned, competent, and intelligent, and because her opposite number and his supporters terrify the shit out of me.

I'm not voting for her because I believe she's an "outsider" or somesuch.

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#138373: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:57:41 AM

People are not voting for Clinton and instead voting Green because they don't think she's a real progressive, that a big complaint from the younge people voting Green instead of Dem. How is establishing her progressive credibility by strait up calling Trump and his supporters racists and homophobes not going to win some over?

edited 13th Sep '16 6:58:23 AM by Silasw

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#138374: Sep 13th 2016 at 7:00:21 AM

[up] Her social policy was largely in agreement with Sanders. He was overwhelmingly favored by this demographic. That implies that something else turns this block off from Clinton.

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#138375: Sep 13th 2016 at 7:00:50 AM

Obama has stated his intentions to veto a bill to allow 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia. I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, the Saudis have done more than almost any other government to support radical Islamic policies and groups. On the other, giving legal support to allow private citizens to launch lawsuits against governments seems ... problematic, and easily abused against the US itself.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

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