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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#138001: Sep 10th 2016 at 6:10:52 PM

Now that I look up the meaning of the word "deplorable", it's actually kind of a sympathetic word.

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#138003: Sep 11th 2016 at 1:58:39 AM

"Basket of Deplorables" wasn't a gaffe. It was simple truths. There's absolutely nothing to apologize for.

Also, it's so memetically powerful. That's what I'll call a bigot when I recognize one. "Oh, you're one of the deplorable..." (implied pity)

edited 11th Sep '16 1:59:44 AM by TheHandle

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#138005: Sep 11th 2016 at 4:24:12 AM

[up]Appropriated Appellation is still to this day an effective strategy for robbing verbal attacks of their impact, so it's not surprising.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#138006: Sep 11th 2016 at 6:07:15 AM

Also they probably didn't know of the word before they heard Clinton using it.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#138007: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:14:11 AM

...and even now that they know the word exists, they still don't understand what it means. "Deplorable and proud of it" is an oxymoron.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#138008: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:28:51 AM

When someone says that I just think "We both think you suck, so...okay!"

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#138009: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:29:43 AM

...and even now that they know the word exists, they still don't understand what it means. "Deplorable and proud of it" is an oxymoron.
"Who're you callin' an oxymoron?!"

edited 11th Sep '16 7:30:36 AM by sgamer82

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#138010: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:35:44 AM

Not an oxymoron. "deplorable" can apply to other people rather than oneself.

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#138011: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:46:06 AM

[up]If some Trump supporter says, "I'm proud of being deplorable," that is a contradiction in terms.

Deplorable (adjective): deserving strong condemnation; shockingly bad in quality.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#138012: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:52:28 AM

Nah that works, they like being condemed and are proud of being stupid and thus poor in quality.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#138013: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:55:54 AM

It's like the people who are proud that they are functionally illiterate. Yes I have met people like that. They don't care that it makes them look like a total moron when they can't read a menu, all they care about is that it thumbs the nose at some random teacher they had 40 years ago who said they would have to read every day. And, again, I have met people like that.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#138014: Sep 11th 2016 at 8:08:26 AM

[up]Yup. Antisocial with inverted values.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#138015: Sep 11th 2016 at 8:40:50 AM

So....apparently Clinton had to leave a 9/11 memorial because she felt "overheated".

And the media is playing this up like its more important than the actual fucking anniversary.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/index.html?adkey=bn

This Is Gonna Suck. If nothing else Trump and his band of deplorables will have a field day with this.

edited 11th Sep '16 8:43:07 AM by Rationalinsanity

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#138016: Sep 11th 2016 at 8:49:31 AM

It's hot some places. I'm west of the places where most of the 9/11 stuff would be going on, and it was hot as hell yesterday, if they're getting what we had today.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#138017: Sep 11th 2016 at 8:55:19 AM

Facts and reason aren't going to come into play here. I wonder if Trump will show some basic decency and wait a day before he starts committing libel about this?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#138018: Sep 11th 2016 at 9:09:12 AM

If there is a God, it really looks like it wants to unleash Trump on America.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#138019: Sep 11th 2016 at 9:16:11 AM

If God's name is "the mainstream media" you might be correct.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TheWanted Since: Oct, 2013
#138020: Sep 11th 2016 at 9:56:10 AM

With most, they're using deplorable as a I'm Spartacus! declaration

But really? Saying anywhere from a third to a half of the entire country are just horrible people?

And calling them 'phobics' and 'ist'? That kind of crap is why Trump is being as successful as he is. People are tired of being called a label.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#138021: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:04:13 AM

Even if those labels are accurate or don't even go far enough.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138022: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:05:46 AM

I mean, it's more like calling a quarter that, at most.

But the point stands. Attacking your political opponents is a tried and true strategy. But attacking their supporters... that's an inherently bigger risk.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#138023: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:14:29 AM

That was their mistake in the Sanders campaign.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#138024: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:18:12 AM

[up][up][up][up]The more impersonal everyday labels like "asshole", "dick", "cunt", and whatnot aren't too much to worry about, since they tend to describe what a person is being at the very moment instead of embodying it inherently.

But the ones created to "brand" people for certain beliefs or opinions or not being completely on your side ("SJW", "-ist", "-phobe", "cuck", etc.) is just the usual toxic "us vs them" mentality that's doing no favors for productive discussion.

[up][up][up].......and yes, I of all people know it can be all too tempting at times to use the latter when one's frightened/angry enough.

edited 11th Sep '16 10:32:17 AM by nervmeister

TheWanted Since: Oct, 2013
#138025: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:31:50 AM

The video of Hillary being ushered into the van looks pretty bad honestly. I've seen two versions, one a low res and the other higher.

The low res one looks like maybe she stumbled getting off the curb before getting help stepping into the van. That one made me go whaaa? What's the big deal?

The second one however is much clearer and she's stumbling well before she steps off the curb and looks stiff, and much more obviously being held up to be taken into the van.

Even if she's in perfect health that was a slip up. Just how bad remains to be seen


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