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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#137476: Sep 6th 2016 at 8:25:50 PM

[up][up] Collapse is too soon to say. When Democrats take back control of Congress and State Legislatures, THEN we can talk about the collapse.

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#137477: Sep 6th 2016 at 8:28:30 PM

I imagine a scenario that has Cruz ride an anti-Clinton/anti-Democrat wave in 2020, espousing many of the same views that motivate the Trump base, while also projecting the marginal amount of capability/credibility that Trump so desperately lacks. But whether or not the alt-right would even stick with someone like Cruz remains to be seen.

And who knows? Maybe Trump TV will bury the hatchet with Cruz and throw their weight behind him in (another) opportunistic grab for power, or maybe they'll hold a grudge and try to sink Cruz in order to support their own nutjob.

And then Paul Ryan swoops in to save the day. Assuming he hasn't been kicked out for not being enough of a nutjob.

edited 6th Sep '16 8:29:55 PM by Eschaton

Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#137478: Sep 6th 2016 at 8:30:52 PM

[up] When you put it like that you make it seem as if the entire world has a vested interest in keeping Republicans in general out of power, not just Trump.

Not that I disagree....

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#137479: Sep 6th 2016 at 8:32:40 PM

[up][up]Cruz is in many ways worse than Trump, at least in my opinion. He's even more authoritarian than Trump, through less fascist and more a classic reactionary, which isn't better at all in my book. Trump at least might not care enough to try and ban abortions or make homosexuality a crime (or so anything other than line his own pockets), Cruz though...

edited 6th Sep '16 8:35:58 PM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#137480: Sep 6th 2016 at 8:35:22 PM

Hell, no.

Cruz won't end human civilization. He'll just fuck America up.

....

Oh, Dear, God.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#137481: Sep 6th 2016 at 8:37:39 PM

[up] If anything, Cruz's downright cultish religious beliefs make him more likely than Trump to end civilization because Jesus. Sure you can say "oh but he doesn't really mean it, he's just a con man", but the same is true of Trump.

edited 6th Sep '16 8:38:30 PM by CaptainCapsase

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#137483: Sep 6th 2016 at 8:47:14 PM

Cruz is restrained by the fact that he is so damned unlikable that even people who mostly agree with him hate his guts.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#137484: Sep 6th 2016 at 9:04:51 PM

It doesn't help (at least for Cruz) that his personal anecdotes are either non-sequiturs or just weird and rarely, if ever, involve other people in a meaningful context.

Trump is an arrogant blowhard and comes off like an awful person. Cruz comes off like he's pretending to be human and doesn't really get it.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#137485: Sep 6th 2016 at 9:07:00 PM

This is pretty much a case of Trump simply having more charisma overall.

That said, they're both terrible human beings and neither should ever be President.

Sanders(who is out) and Clinton are just plain superior Presidental choices as is, since they actually will keep the country in far better shape. I'd rather the status quo is barely changed than everything becoming far worse. I want it better, but slowly getting better is still something acceptable over becoming severely worse.

Shadow?
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#137486: Sep 6th 2016 at 9:16:30 PM

Either way, I don't see it being terribly likely that the winner in 2016 will lose in 2020. Incumbents have always had a huge advantage over challengers, so even if Clinton is currently doing low in the polls, once she's actually in office and turns out not to single-handedly cause the collapse of civilization, people will warm up to her.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#137487: Sep 6th 2016 at 9:36:57 PM

That depends entirely on how the country is fairing by that election year. There's no telling what the Republicans, some foreign nation/organization, freak act of nature, or any mistakes of her own could tarnish Clinton's chances of re-election. Ford, Carter, and Bush Sr. can all attest to that.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#137488: Sep 6th 2016 at 9:51:50 PM

In other news...

WASHINGTON ― President Barack Obama made history on Tuesday by nominating the first Muslim person to the federal judiciary, Abid Qureshi.

“I am pleased to nominate Mr. Qureshi to serve on the United States District Court bench,” Obama said in a statement. “I am confident he will serve the American people with integrity and a steadfast commitment to justice.”

It’s unlikely Qureshi’s nomination to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia will go anywhere. With just months left in Obama’s term, Senate Republicans have all but stopped confirming his judicial picks.

Dude is just trolling at this point.

[lol][lol]

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#137489: Sep 6th 2016 at 9:54:22 PM

No fucks Obama is best Obama. If only he'd quit it with his TPP...

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Mr.Didact Keep Hope Alive from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
Keep Hope Alive
#137490: Sep 6th 2016 at 11:20:27 PM

Can someone who actually understands economics explain the TPP to me and why it's bad?

Stand Fast, Stand Strong, Stand Together
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#137491: Sep 6th 2016 at 11:23:32 PM

[up] It's more the copyright part that people hate. They essentially slipped SOPA into it, and will force all countries in the deal to switch to US copyright law.

edited 6th Sep '16 11:25:33 PM by Bat178

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#137492: Sep 6th 2016 at 11:41:04 PM

Mind you, US copyright law isn't that bad. The problems are that a) it's fairly questionable that these treaties would have significant economic benefits, let alone individual parts thereof, b) most copyright and patent treaties are land-grabs by interested lobbies rather than useful things, c) TTP and TTIP contemplate changes to financial law that extremely dangerous and likely useless and d) fixing flaws in economic treaties is almost impossible.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#137493: Sep 7th 2016 at 12:57:43 AM

So Trump won't release his tax returns until Hillary releases every email she's ever sent or received. (TRIGGER WARNING: Breitbart)

Basically he's gotten to the point where he can't be bothered to pay people to go digging through her trash.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#137494: Sep 7th 2016 at 2:59:05 AM

About 2020, I think that if Bush Jr could be reelected, Clinton can.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#137495: Sep 7th 2016 at 3:25:06 AM

[up] Perhaps, but he political climate in 2004 is not the same as in 2016, and I don't see things getting better in that regard over the next four years.

XanderCrews Since: Oct, 2010
#137496: Sep 7th 2016 at 4:38:38 AM

Wow, the ultra-conservative Dallas Morning News has endorsed Hillary. She's the first Democrat to receive their endorsement since FDR.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#137497: Sep 7th 2016 at 6:00:52 AM

Because "conservative" doesn't have to mean "batshit".

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#137498: Sep 7th 2016 at 6:03:31 AM

So a former member of the 2004 Bush campaign creative team and the ad council for McCain's 2008 campaign claims to have been told that "Trump TV" is Trump's Plan B should he lose.

Breitbart: The TV Station? Sounds like fun.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#137499: Sep 7th 2016 at 6:18:32 AM

Ted Cruz thinks Applejack is best pon. Truly he is the scum of the earth.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#137500: Sep 7th 2016 at 6:42:21 AM

Well, it gels with the persona he wants to project.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

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