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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Here's an article by a Democratic campaign veteran saying a similar thing to what I'm saying. They said so many outrageous things about recent Republican candidates, like Romney, that they pretty much have nowhere else to go except "You're Hitler". And if you're like me, who thinks Romney was a much worse candidate than Trump, it's impossible for what they say to have any sway on you. (I think most Americans hate Romney much more than Trump)
Seriously, it's hilarious to see them heap praise on Romney, Boehner, and Bush now just so they can bash Trump.
Uh, I just want to say that the Alt-right? Their core really is Neo-nazis. That's not exaggeration or anything, it's totally literal.
The thing that (aside from personality issues and beliefs) that completely turns me off Trump is that he's said that his success in business is what indicates that he would be a good president. Except that he doesn't have success in business. The hotels with Trump in the name? They just licensed his name. He doesn't actually run them. And the stuff he ran himself invariably collapsed, usually for either stupid or totally avoidable problems, like selling steaks at an appliance store or starting up a short-range luxury airline in 2008 after the recession started. The only thing he's at all successful in is New York and New Jersey real estate, and he's actually a really minor player in those arenas. The really big names (like the Rockefellers) don't care about publicity, so Trump looks a lot bigger than he is. And, of course, real estate doesn't actually work like any other businesses.
I just think Romney was kind of fake, Boehner was between a rock and a hard place, and Bush meant well, but he wasn't all that bright.
edited 2nd Sep '16 2:32:22 PM by Zendervai
Also the "minor culture wars" you think LGBT rights are? That determines the safety of thousands of peope in this country. My friends, my family, they could be seriously hurt by these policies. Trump has talked about barring people like me from using restrooms, and taking away my right to get married.
And that's not even getting into what could happen if the clinton foundation or planned parenthood get shut down.
Oooooh boy, this is gonna get fun. *Grabs popcorn.
The meme is love, the meme is life. Go check out my youtube channel. :) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5XjInl2Il9SGEQbyyU0djAGamergate is a banned subject, don't mention it unless you want to get thumped folks, it's banned forum wide, just no.
We don't need or want that fight here.
edited 2nd Sep '16 2:44:20 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranAlso GG is a banned topic here so I won't get into that, but I will say that making an appeal to that is really not doing you any favors.
It's embarrassing to admit this, but it's always nice to get it off my chest.
As for the political correctness thing, it seems hypocritical since right now the left is defending Kaep against his critics, when you can just say they want him to "face no consequences for his actions", which is ridiculous. The difference is he won't lose his job or face academic sanctions consequences, like many people have over the years, and unlike him not all of them are rich or famous. That has a serious impact on someone's life.
He might get harassed online, but that's happened a lot over the years to people on the left and right and I don't like how SJ Ws ignored it when it happened to people on the right. It would've been so easy to reach out and champion both sides, yet it never happened. The idea that over and over again everyone on the opposite side of you who gets hit by PC just wants "the right to be an asshole without consequences" is just ridiculous, and is such a condescending attitude to take when people have valid concerns.
edited 2nd Sep '16 2:43:04 PM by madfoot
So looking over madfoot's response(s), they support Trump because they are exactly the sort of bigot that he appeals to. And here I was hoping for something a little more interesting.
Seriously, dismissing LGBT issues as minor culture wars? Pretending the cesspool of misogyny and racism that is the alt-right isn't an issue? Jeez.
edited 2nd Sep '16 2:48:27 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
I had just started to break down your post point by point but then i came to
Your grandpa said this often did he? Did he whisper it from beyond the grave? Or did he whisper this into your dads ballsack considering you claim to be 23. Honestly if you're going to write up a fucking trollpost put some gooddamn effort into it.
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?And that's not even getting into what could happen if the clinton foundation or planned parenthood get shut down.
Yes, the fact that I can get branded a sex offender in North Carolina is perfectly fine! Nothing needs to be changed! The fact that I can be fired in multiple states because I'm trans is just hunky dory!
This shit is not settled. It's a fight that's still happening, as evidenced by how Republicans are trying to make conversion therapy legal nation wide.
Your grandpa said this often did he? Did he whisper it from beyond the grave? Or did he whisper this into your dads ballsack considering you claim to be 23. Honestly if you're going to write up a fucking trollpost put some gooddamn effort into it.
No, I heard it from my mom and dad lots of times, especially in the last year. My mom died in the beginning of this year and I heard a lot about her side of the family through the month of Janruary (before she died).
Is it really that hard for you to believe? Everyone's always so quick to assume troll. I didn't tell you about my grandma's Syrian rice (she was Irish) and I'm not going to tell you the rest of my life story, out of fear of doxing, but I'm sick of arguing all the time on the other political forum I go to. I'm practically pouring my heart out here.
A Trump presidency wouldn't just be dangerous to several minority groups in America. But he will be very dangerous to the Global community as a whole.
The meme is love, the meme is life. Go check out my youtube channel. :) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5XjInl2Il9SGEQbyyU0djAYeah, my original post referenced that and I just edited out since I realized that would just prolong the subject.
Ok, so I wasn't really aware of who this person you're referencing is, but just to be clear, we're talking about Colin Kaepernick, right?
From what I'm reading, there was some controversy over him wearing socks with cartoon pig cops on them and he also refused to stand during a national anthem during some game? I will admit that I don't really know much about football or a lot of the culture surrounding it, but here's my two cents based on what i've read:
I would say that the former is in bad taste at best and only more liable to strain relationships between police officers and their communities. There is certainly a problem with the way certain police officers act in regards to how they treat certain racial minorities, but being a player for a big sport and wearing something like that does nothing to make things better and he should have thought of that.
As for the latter, I would not necessarily have done it but upon reading why he did it, I can at least understand why. It's sort of hard to pledge your allegiance to a country that doesn't seem to care much about you or is outright hostile to you simply because of your ethnicity or sexual orientation, and I think we do need more important people talking about those problems even if not necessarily in this way. Exactly what "critics" are you talking about and what "repercussions" should he suffer for it?
Just so I understand what you're saying: how exactly do you define "political correctness" and exactly what do you mean when you say someone is being hit by it? Because I'm not really sure I understand what you're saying.
Gay rights is a settled issue? Have you read the Republican platform? The one that wants to force people into gay conversion therapy?
Looking over the screed from the last page, the anti-immigration stuff is really special. So's the attempt at trying to paint Trump as pro-gay rights. And of course writing off BLM and similar movements as "identity politics" and blaming the Democrats for the racists crawling out of the woodwork. Yeesh.
There's just nothing to say to that. Talking to someone who is wrong on an issue is doable. Talking to someone who is wrong about that many fundamental issues is not. If those goes on too long I'm going to suggest that everyone just holler for the mods.
edited 2nd Sep '16 2:58:55 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
I don't like how vague and subjective their reasoning was, and the states' rights strategy was already working better than anyone could've expected, where more than half already legalized it on their own. As Justice Roberts said, the victory for LGBT people is worth celebrating, but it was a bad say for the Constitution.
Yeah I'm also confused about the political correctness thing. Could you sorta elaborate on that?
Well I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on that, I don't believe in the concept of State's Rights at all. It's been nothing but a method for bigots to stonewall the spread of human rights throughout our nation's history.
edited 2nd Sep '16 3:00:24 PM by LeGarcon
Oh really when?your only other activity is A: trying to put troll bait onto the donald trump page and B: getting edit banned for posting YMMY trolly bait years go. your the most obvious troll to have ever trolled and I can only assume your still here because the mods are asleep.
@everyone else: seriously the bait is so obvious guys, ignore him.
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?State's rights...the argument that started in the Civil War to make the case for keeping slavery. Always a position you want to appeal to.
I've always been fascinated by the degree to which the USA has allowed the losing side of their internal schism to set the agenda going forward. The entire concept of state's rights has done little but retard the development of social progress throughout the country. You cannot have a nation where a marriage recognized in one state, is invalid in another.
That about settles that then.
edited 2nd Sep '16 3:04:45 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

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And calling LGBT issues "minor" isn't helping either given that these are things that affect thousands of people, and talking about it like it's some trivial thing isn't very liable to endear people to your position. For someone talking about empathy it feels very tone-deaf.
edited 3rd Sep '16 9:20:35 AM by Berrenta