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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#136501: Aug 26th 2016 at 8:42:30 PM

Goldwater famously quipped that one did not need to be straight to be in the army, just able to shoot straight.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#136502: Aug 26th 2016 at 8:43:17 PM

Regarding gay rights, I know he was a proponent of allowing gays to serve freely in the military, and to prevent businesses from refusing to hire or serve gay people, for example. And he absolutely despised the Religious Right. I'm pretty sure that he referred to Jerry Falwell and others of the same ilk as charlatans and scammers, IIRC.

edited 26th Aug '16 8:43:55 PM by TheWanderer

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#136503: Aug 26th 2016 at 8:57:53 PM

US District Court rules that North Carolina's HB2 is unconstitutional. HB 2, for those who are unaware, is the transgender bathroom discrimination bill.

For those interested, the ruling appears to be saying "I'd really, really like to call this bill constitutional, but I have to obey a higher court precedent."

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#136504: Aug 26th 2016 at 9:10:58 PM

So we'll probably be seeing an appeal

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#136505: Aug 26th 2016 at 9:26:49 PM

So Goldwater supported laws to prevent businesses from discriminating against gay people, but opposed laws to prevent businesses from discriminating against black people?

That's a highly unusual combination of political positions.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#136506: Aug 26th 2016 at 9:31:54 PM

I've seen the opposite enough not to think its that unusual. Unfortunate, yes. But not unusual.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#136507: Aug 26th 2016 at 9:31:54 PM

[up][up]It just requires him to have known and sympathized with some gay white people.

edited 26th Aug '16 9:32:11 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#136508: Aug 26th 2016 at 9:36:10 PM

[up][up]Unusual does not mean impossible, only uncommon.

Leviticus 19:34
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#136509: Aug 26th 2016 at 9:44:21 PM

Goldwater started out pro-civil rights, then he realized that his states' rights base wasn't into that.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#136510: Aug 26th 2016 at 10:20:37 PM

So while watching youtube video zombies, someone in comment section makes Trump wall joke which of course leads to flame war about politics tongue Which confuse me since it sounds rather insane accusations of Clinton being worse because they are apparently mass murderer, supported by gun companies(I'm kinda surprised that someone who supports Trump finds problem with that .-.) and have few months to live and etc

Thing I'm wondering this time, where the hell people are getting these insane conspiracy theories from anyway? Is it just trolls or do they have basis on something?

edited 26th Aug '16 10:21:03 PM by SpookyMask

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#136511: Aug 26th 2016 at 10:56:51 PM

You've got to understand that these people live in a facts-free bubble. "Basis" is for people who aren't confirming their pre-existing biases.

edited 26th Aug '16 10:58:53 PM by Ramidel

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#136512: Aug 26th 2016 at 11:14:54 PM

With conspiracy theories, you run into a tautology problem (I think that's the right term).

Basically, conspiracy theories tend to be about Villain Sues that are dedicated to covering their own tracks. This means that any evidence against a conspiracy theory can be interpreted as part of the conspiracy, where as any evidence for it is a minor slip-up on the part of the conspirators.

Leviticus 19:34
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#136513: Aug 26th 2016 at 11:56:39 PM

Re: HB 2: So we're coming back to the fact that America is only "the land of the free" if you're sufficiently WASP?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
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#136514: Aug 27th 2016 at 12:22:25 AM

Been that way since independence was declared. We're working on it.

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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#136515: Aug 27th 2016 at 3:53:40 AM

Land of the mostly free and brave from their drone cams doesn't have the same ring to it.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#136516: Aug 27th 2016 at 8:12:02 AM

So, that "everything positive" medical report? It was written in all of 5 minutes.

Seems like Melania Trump has hired the lawyer Peter Thiel hired to bring down Gawker to silence any and all allegations that the modeling agency she worked for when she first came to the US doubled as an escort service. Ladies and gentlemen, our defenders of free speech and the last bastion against the cancer that is political correctness.

Breitbart works out of the basement of a Florida mansion owned by an Egyptian Muslim millionaire. Said millionaire was written about oddly glowingly despite Breitbart's general Islamophobia (and, really, phobia of anyone to the left of The Daily Stormer). KICK THEM OUT! KICK THEM OUT!

And because I can't be bothered to give his blog more clicks, Scott Adams compared Hillary chewing out the alt-right to treason. Yes, really. What is in his food/water/air supply?

Speaking of the alt-right, they launched #AltRightMeans to look less like white supremacists with an internet connection. Not a lot of people on Twitter are buying it.

/b/tard yells "Pepe" when Hillary chewed out the alt-right, is escorted from the event by the Secret Service. Well, it's nicer than what I would have done to him.

edited 27th Aug '16 8:12:38 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#136517: Aug 27th 2016 at 8:25:01 AM

The whole thing with bashing Melania really bugs me. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see her in the White House, but all the criticism against her boils down to slut-shaming. So what if she worked as a nude model or an escort?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#136518: Aug 27th 2016 at 8:30:58 AM

[up]What I've seen is that by doing so, she violated US immigration laws as she was there on a tourist visa. It's not about what her day/night job is, but rather the implications of her day/night job. That is, a violation of US immigration laws. And now, trying to silence critics.

edited 27th Aug '16 8:31:14 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#136519: Aug 27th 2016 at 8:50:42 AM

Even that wouldn't be such a big deal if Trump's primary platform position were not the absolute opposition to illegal immigration, making Melania's dodgy status in that regard paint him as a hypocrite.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#136520: Aug 27th 2016 at 8:53:44 AM

It's the same thing with Republican candidates that cheat on their wives. The Democrats do that sort of thing too but their party doesn't stress traditional family values as much. It's a hypocrisy thing more than saying illegal immigration is wrong.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#136521: Aug 27th 2016 at 8:55:58 AM

...and in other late-breaking news: water is wet, the sky is blue, bears shit in the woods, and the Pope is Catholic.

This Space Intentionally Left Blank.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#136522: Aug 27th 2016 at 8:58:32 AM

[up][up]

Not to mention that, ethical concerns aside, escort work is generally illegal in the US, at least outside of the "girlfriend experience" types which is still legally shady as hell.

[up]

"Output's up!"

edited 27th Aug '16 9:05:53 AM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#136523: Aug 27th 2016 at 9:08:20 AM

Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump Dwayne Wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in Chicago. Just what I have been saying. African-Americans will VOTE TRUMP!

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#136524: Aug 27th 2016 at 9:32:38 AM

I'm confused.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#136525: Aug 27th 2016 at 9:35:14 AM

Dwayne Wade's cousin was shot and killed while out with her baby. Dwayne Wade called for greater gun control measures so this never has to happen to someone else, while Trump stood up and said this is why black people will vote for him.

Yet another case of Trump applauding himself in the wake of a tragedy.


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