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#136126: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:11:27 AM

I'm sure some of us would do that but I'm not sure if anyone can be bothered to find batty quotes from the third-party candidates.

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#136127: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:12:38 AM

"We are the president."

It's a nitpick, but only reigning monarchs, newspaper editors, and people with intestinal parasites should refer to themselves in the plural.

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#136128: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:15:35 AM

Taking nukes "off the table" can refer to a lot of things. First strikes were really only threatening when radar was in infancy and satellites were shite. We now live in a world where we'd have a good chunk of time to respond to a nuclear strike and therefore destroy all of humanity. Yay!

In all seriousness who exactly are we worried about nuking us? The russians? Putin's crazy but not crazy. North Korea? Don't make me laugh. ISIS? They have neither the resources/skills to develop nuclear weapons (or missiles for that matter) and even if they did somehow get a nuclear warhead your looking at a smuggle'n'boom scenario which first strike policy wouldn't combat either.

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#136129: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:16:36 AM

Nor would there be any tangible target to nuke in retaliation for a terrorist bomb.

Let's face it: the only way nuclear weapons can retain any strategic value is if they are maintained but never used, since the first nation to do so loses.

Moving back to the original topic: the only reason these statements by Hillary are controversial in any way is because they've been run through the spin machine by people who have a preexisting bias against her. Hell, Joe Biden says far less sensitive things off the cuff, and he gets a pass as "Ol' Folksy Joe". There's an ineluctible gender component to this criticism as well as an intense worship of the appearance of being "fair and balanced".

edited 24th Aug '16 9:20:22 AM by Fighteer

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#136130: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:18:45 AM

I don't mean any disrespect, but sometimes I feel that those who vote for the third party candidates seem to do it as a not-so-smart way to get back at the system and the so-called elites rather than a genuine support for those candidates.

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#136131: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:19:22 AM

[up] if the quot is even legit (see my post above about it being discussed on snopes) it seemed Hillary said it while Bill was the one in office, as it dates back to '96

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#136132: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:21:58 AM

[up] That's also a point: when you have to go back 20 years to find something that Clinton said that might have been inappropriate or insensitive, whereas for Trump it's a question of finding a day in the current week when he didn't do that, the insistence that this is a "choice between two evils" becomes increasingly dishonest.

edited 24th Aug '16 9:22:30 AM by Fighteer

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#136133: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:23:18 AM

[up] The other two quotes, best as I could find, dated back to 07 when Clinton primaried against Obama. In one case (the "with us or against us") I couldn't find an article with it, just reference on a bunch of quote sites.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#136134: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:27:57 AM

@Silas - My comment was directed toward the idea that Hil's quotes make her a bad choice without the same person applying the same standards toward the third party candidates.

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#136135: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:29:58 AM

Well, there's always this for the Libertarian Party...

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
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#136136: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:31:58 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4zd07t/my_writing_in_the_huffington_post_salon_and_the/

Probably the most delusional "journalist" I've ever seen. Some of the replies in there are baffling.

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#136137: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:40:08 AM

[up]It's r/politics, delusions are kind of the norm there.

Oh, and here's Jill Stein claiming that "wireless" causes cancer.

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#136139: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:56:27 AM

Rush Limbaugh is warning of federally funded lesbian farmers invading conservative farming states. How exactly this guy still has a wife, I have zero clue.

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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#136140: Aug 24th 2016 at 9:57:35 AM

I wonder if she keeps her cellphone in a faraday cage to limit her exposure to it's harmful waves.

It really shouldn't surprise me that there is this big anti-science block in my camp but it still kinda stings. I became progressive because I looked at the evidence and I can't help but feel like there's a not insignificant portion of the movement are just here because they distrust big corporations more then they distrust the government. I think I'm empathizing with moderate republicans right now you guzie. halp

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#136141: Aug 24th 2016 at 10:01:28 AM

I suspect that the Greens feel that Faradays shouldn't be kept in cages, it's animal cruelty after all.

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#136142: Aug 24th 2016 at 10:02:02 AM

Lesbian farmers. First we steal your job, then we steal your wife.

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#136143: Aug 24th 2016 at 10:22:48 AM

I would say that there is a certain demographic of so-called progressives that are mostly motivated by a dislike of various things they consider trappings of western civilization and "the man", such as technology and science. Essentially, you can think of them as being deluded into thinking they're in a very poorly written cyberpunk story.

To be fair, there's a similar demographic for conservatives that thinks they're in a prequel to a left-behind esque story.

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#136144: Aug 24th 2016 at 10:23:12 AM

Sounds like Rush switched from painkillers to LSD...

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#136145: Aug 24th 2016 at 10:38:05 AM

That's what worries me the most. It's not just "country won't get much better or could get slightly worse" either.

Thankfully I intend to vote Hillary anyway, and it's not even cause I'm a Democrat. It's because "holy shit, this guy is nuts" is the only other viable candidate at this time.

Yeah. At worst, Hillary might move our country backwards a bit, but the same can only be said of Donald Trump in the sense that Adolf Hitler was "A minor step in the wrong direction" for Germany.

The only bias I'd say that exists in this thread is that Fox's continued "we need to purge the entire Republican Party from power, every last one of them!" isn't going challenged and I'm pretty sure isn't something someone would be allowed to say about the Dems.

I mean, a big part of that is the fact that many of us are at a loss for a single Republican politician we can point to and go, "Yeah, he's pretty good. I like the cut of his jib." When Republicans are spoken positively of in this thread, it's usually only because they're supporting Hillary or opposing Trump, and it's often people we've reviled in the past - like the Bush family.

Most of us don't live in actual mortal terror of Democrat leadership.

Problem is, Trump's supporters have demonized the left so much, they cannot find any fault with Trump. I've even heard of HISPANIC IMMIGRANTS supporting him. And I mean legal Hispanic immigrants. They resent the illegal ones for getting into America easy while they had to struggle to get in.

They clearly weren't paying attention when Trump tried to have Judge Curiel removed from his Trump University lawsuit on grounds that because Curiel is Hispanic, he cannot be considered an unbiased party because all Hispanics support illegal immigration and have it in for him over his plans to build a wall.

Trump has made it clear that his prejudice against Hispanics does not stop at the words "legal citizen".

We'll take michigan off your hands but it'll cost ya somewhere warm and sunny.

So all we have to do is throw in Texas? SOLD!

"I have said publicly no option should be off the table, but I would certainly take nuclear weapons off the table."

Sure, do that. I'm sure Putin is just as understanding and idealistic as you are. Let's ignore that the threat of nuclear warfare stopped humanity as a species from destroying ourselves several times over?

That nuclear weapons are off the table is standard political policy that every politician believes in. It's also part of the Geneva Convention. The rule of nuclear weapons is that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES are you to ever employ them unless another country already is. Anyone who launches a nuke will be destroyed with extreme prejudice by everyone. It's called Mutually-Assured Destruction and it's the reason the world didn't end during the Cold War.

The only person questioning it is Trump, who's expressed confusion on why he shouldn't just drop nukes on American enemies overseas. Which is why Trump is an active threat to the survival of global civilization: he's too stupid and fundamentally opposed to all things political to really get MAD and seems to think the nuclear Holocaust is something he can charm his way out of.

edited 24th Aug '16 10:42:18 AM by TobiasDrake

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#136146: Aug 24th 2016 at 11:03:23 AM

I would say that there is a certain demographic of so-called progressives that are mostly motivated by a dislike of various things they consider trappings of western civilization and "the man", such as technology and science.

Yeah they're called hipsters, IR hipsters are a massive pain in the arse.

I mean, a big part of that is the fact that many of us are at a loss for a single Republican politician we can point to and go, "Yeah, he's pretty good. I like the cut of his jib."

Sure, but that doesn't actually excuse Fox's constant calls for a purge "by any means necessary".

edited 24th Aug '16 11:03:49 AM by Silasw

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#136147: Aug 24th 2016 at 11:03:51 AM

Nigel Farage is set to speak at a Trump rally.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37177938

edited 24th Aug '16 11:04:07 AM by Rationalinsanity

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#136148: Aug 24th 2016 at 11:05:10 AM

Great, now I'm going to have to Google lesbian farmers after I get home today. Thanks, Limbaugh!

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#136149: Aug 24th 2016 at 11:05:31 AM

[up][up][up] There's a big chunk of genuine Luddites in there, who are divided from the right mainly by social issues.

I don't disagree that the modern GOP is badly in need of a purge, but one of our basic rules here is that we must refrain from advocating harm to any person.

edited 24th Aug '16 11:05:39 AM by Fighteer

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#136150: Aug 24th 2016 at 11:10:40 AM

Re: the Libertarian Party's convention.

I'm still waiting for that Petersen delegate to cut his own throat, like he vowed. Johnson won. It's time for him to put his money where his mouth is and his blade where his throat is.

edited 24th Aug '16 11:11:25 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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