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#134951: Aug 10th 2016 at 11:06:56 PM

[up][up][up][up] The way he repeats himself makes him sound like a cocaine addict...

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#134952: Aug 10th 2016 at 11:28:51 PM

[up] I wouldn't say that's impossible. It's also been noted that Trump may be some form of Narcissist, or has some sort of Narcissistic personality disorder.

edited 10th Aug '16 11:29:24 PM by Greenmantle

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#134953: Aug 10th 2016 at 11:33:31 PM

Or he's just shit at public speaking and is playing it up with his base.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#134954: Aug 11th 2016 at 12:03:18 AM

Every time I think "maybe Trump isn't as bad as I think he is" he goes ahead and says or does something that makes me realize that he's much worse than I think he is.

As for Trump repeating himself: I strongly suspect he has a wire loose. Do narcissists repeat themselves a lot? Personally, I'm inclined to believe he's a pathological liar.

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#134956: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:56:51 AM

The head of the American Nazi Party now thinks Trump is "a real opportunity"

edited 11th Aug '16 3:57:11 AM by TheHandle

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#134957: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:09:41 AM

Re: Paul Ryan, he's pretty much a hero to both sides of the GOP. There's no way primarying him would fly.

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#134958: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:14:18 AM

Didn't we hear that list of criticisms of Jill Stein already?

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#134959: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:17:39 AM

After Eric Cantor got caught with his pants down, other leaders would've made sure to check any blind spots in their home districts.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134960: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:18:31 AM

Her habit of deleting social media posts when her base doesn't like them was new to me.

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#134961: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:28:42 AM

Stein seems like a classic example of a fringe candidate who's been captured by the base that they're trying to appeal to. Functionally, most mainstream left-wing views are already swept up in the Democratic Party, so the Green leaders have to pander to the ones who are left out, and those tend to be the ones who believe in the stupid conspiratorial memes and/or hold racist or otherwise extreme views. Stein can't piss them off too much by trying to hold reasonable positions, lest she lose her entire base of support.

edited 11th Aug '16 5:30:25 AM by Fighteer

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#134962: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:56:04 AM

Deleting social media posts is news to me. I also didn't know she dined with Putin. Did she pull these kind of antics in 2012 or is this a new thing?

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#134963: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:00:04 AM

Department of Justice completely trashes the Baltimore Police Department, the BPD regularly violates constitutional rights, officers engage in sexual misconduct with criminals in exchange for protection from being arrested, and engages in both personal and systemic racist (personal being shouting n#gger at black people a lot, systemic being arrest forms that are formatted to always describe suspects as black males and supervisors telling officers to "make up a reason" to arrest groups of black men) practices

Direct link to report

A few choice excerpts:

During a ride-along with Justice Department officials, a BPD sergeant instructed a patrol officer to stop a group of young African-American males on a street corner, question them, and order them to disperse. When the patrol officer protested that he had no valid reason to stop the group, the sergeant replied “Then make something up.”

One Baltimore firefighter and an emergency medical technician told us that, prior to a march led by a prominent African-American pastor in 2015, a BPD officer told the firefighters “they’re going marching and there’s going to be a problem. What y’all should do is turn them hoses on them.”

Among the many damning findings within the Department of Justice report on the Baltimore Police Department is the revelation that some police officers allegedly coerced "members of a vulnerable population" into having sex, particularly those involved in sex work, in exchange for avoiding arrest, for cash, and even for narcotics.

"This conduct is not only criminal," the report said, "it is an abuse of power."

The report found that even though one officer had internal records with documented evidence of such conduct, no one — from BPD to the State’s Attorney’s Office — pursued criminal charges. Instead, he was allowed to resign.

A shift commander for one of BPD’s districts emailed a template for describing trespassing arrests to a sergeant and a patrol officer. The template provides a blueprint for arresting an individual standing on or near a public housing development who cannot give a “valid reason” for being there — a facially unconstitutional detention. Equally troubling is the fact that the template contains blanks to be filled in for details of the arrest, including the arrest data and location and the suspect’s name and address, but does not include a prompt to fill in the race or gender of the arrestee. Rather, the words “black male” are automatically included in the description of the arrest. The supervisor’s template thus presumes that individuals arrested for trespassing will be African American.

In 2013 a white male BPD officer made a racially-charged threat to an African-American teenager while booking the youth into Baltimore’s juvenile facility on a failure to appear charge. The incident stemmed from an argument about George Zimmerman, who had been acquitted of murdering Trayvon Martin four days earlier. In response to the teenager referring to the officers present as “Zimmermans,” a white officer threatened the juvenile by referring to the outfit Martin wore at the time he was killed: “Put a hoodie on and come to my neighborhood, you will see.” The officer also threatened the youth by stating, “If you come to my neighborhood I’ll throw you in the water and feed you to the crabs. I will then let the crabs get fat off you and then sell them to your family.” When BPD investigated the incident, the officer admitted to “talking about the crabs and throwing him in the river,” but claimed to internal affairs investigators that he “could not recall” whether he made the remark about the hoodie. BPD sustained a complaint against the officer for “misconduct” and making an “inappropriate comment,” but the investigative file contains no record of discipline. The officer remains employed at BPD.

BPD disproportionately stops African-American pedestrians. Citywide, BPD stopped African-American residents three times as often as white residents after controlling for the population of the area in which the stops occurred. In each of BPD’s nine police districts, African Americans accounted for a greater share of BPD’s stops than the population living in the district. And BPD is far more likely to subject individual African Americans to multiple stops in short periods of time. In the five and a half years of data we examined, African Americans accounted for 95 percent of the 410 individuals BPD stopped at least 10 times. One African American man in his mid-fifties was stopped 30 times in less than 4 years. Despite these repeated intrusions, none of the 30 stops resulted in a citation or criminal charge.

...

The disparities applied to actual searches. According to the report, police were much more likely to search black Americans, even though they were much less likely to find any contraband on black suspects compared to their white counterparts:

BPD disproportionately searches African Americans during stops. BPD searched African Americans more frequently during pedestrian and vehicle stops, even though searches of African Americans were less likely to discover contraband. Indeed, BPD officers found contraband twice as often when searching white individuals compared to African Americans during vehicle stops and 50 percent more often during pedestrian stops.

The Justice Department makes it very clear that these are not problems with just a few of the police officers in Baltimore. Instead, the Justice Department lays much of the blame on systemic issues — particularly a total lack of accountability for officers who engage in misconduct:

BPD lacks meaningful accountability systems to deter misconduct. The Department does not consistently classify, investigate, adjudicate, and document complaints of misconduct according to its own policies and accepted law enforcement standards. Instead, we found that BPD personnel discourage complaints from being filed, misclassify complaints to minimize their apparent severity, and conduct little or no investigation. As a result, a resistance to accountability persists throughout much of BPD, and many officers are reluctant to report misconduct for fear that doing so is fruitless and may provoke retaliation. The Department also lacks adequate civilian oversight — its Civilian Review Board is hampered by inadequate resources, and the agency’s internal affairs and disciplinary process lacks transparency.

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#134964: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:05:29 AM

I think it's a manipulation technique for dumb people. Repeat a lie hard enough, it'll stick.

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#134965: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:57:06 AM

[up][up] I remember during the primary that Martin O'Malley was working to shake off the negative stigma of his time as mayor of Baltimore by claiming that he worked hard to reform the BPD. Clearly, there is a lot more work to be done there. /sigh

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#134966: Aug 11th 2016 at 7:06:56 AM

[up] That's what we in the know call a Massive Understatement.

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#134967: Aug 11th 2016 at 7:25:41 AM

[up][up] To the tenuous defense of the BPD - this report was made at their demand. They invited the DOJ to look over their systemic problems.

So... at least there's some willingness to address issues? The real test will be if anything gets addressed concretely.

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#134968: Aug 11th 2016 at 7:30:55 AM

[up]If the BPD is anything like Dan Simmons describes, it's going to be a damned long shot, and require sustained and extensive public and political attention. We, as an audience, cannot allow ourselves to be fickle on this.

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#134969: Aug 11th 2016 at 8:36:16 AM

Honestly, if the DOJ had the resources/manpower/money, I'd say any police involved shooting should automatically go to the feds. Period.

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#134970: Aug 11th 2016 at 8:38:51 AM

Isn't the FBI facing manpower shortages of its own?

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#134971: Aug 11th 2016 at 8:42:14 AM

[up][up] Including attempted Suicide by Cop and all incidents where an Officer or a member of the public dies during Police work, including Traffic Incidents?

edited 11th Aug '16 8:42:49 AM by Greenmantle

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#134972: Aug 11th 2016 at 8:48:52 AM

Just for nostalgia, this old Colbert congressional hearing:

Sheesh. Tough Room. Poor Colbert got one laugh. One.

[down]I know, right?

edited 11th Aug '16 8:50:52 AM by TheHandle

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#134973: Aug 11th 2016 at 8:50:08 AM

@134950: ... WHY THE HELL IS THERE A NAZI PARTY IN THE USA THAT'S ALLOWED TO USE "NAZI" IN ITS NAME?!

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#134974: Aug 11th 2016 at 8:54:03 AM

[up][up][up] Yes. Then the federal investigators determine there was no foul play, and that's the end of it.

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#134975: Aug 11th 2016 at 8:55:50 AM

[up][up][up]Amazing. People are smiling in the background tho.


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