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Lost in Space
#134776: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:28:10 PM

[up] That's a "pollster"? Don't make me laugh; a real pollster would not act that way.

At a North Carolina rally, Trump suggested that "Second Amendment people" could stop Hillary Clinton and her hand-picked judges", implying that violent insurrection would be necessary to unseat her should she win. His campaign later issued a statement that he was talking about "voting as a unified bloc". Yeah, sure.

In a related report, 70% of Trump supporters say they believe that the election system is "rigged" if Hillary wins.

At what point can we stop pretending that these people are worth attempting to engage?

edited 9th Aug '16 1:29:59 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#134777: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:30:25 PM

[nja]

edited 9th Aug '16 1:30:37 PM by Deadbeatloser22

"Yup. That tasted purple."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#134778: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:32:47 PM

[up][up] basically the only way to prove them wrong is for them to get exactly what they want...

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#134779: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:33:18 PM

Yeah, Trump supporters have this thing where they're convinced that the majority of the country loves Trump just as much as them.

It reminds me of how neo nazis are positive most people are on their side, just "too afraid to say it".

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#134780: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:35:37 PM

[up][up]Lord knows we've had people childish enough to pull that logic on us here.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#134781: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:37:21 PM

[up] That was actually my immediate thought, as someone who occasionally lurks in edit banned/suspended

edited 9th Aug '16 1:37:32 PM by sgamer82

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#134782: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:37:27 PM

The other thing about The Prince that most people don't know (including me till recently) is that it might have been satire. Machievelli was involved in a popular revolt against the Medici family, Florence's then-ruling bosses. (Lorenzo di Medici was one of the patrons of the Renaissance and very popular but the family fell into dis-repute in subsequent years and grew more dictatorial. Lorenzo II, the Medici the book was dedicated to, had the nickname "the unfortunate".) Books of advice for rulers were a fairly common genre at the time. His other political works are very pro-republican (small r).

edited 9th Aug '16 1:38:57 PM by Elle

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#134783: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:39:42 PM

The possibility of a Trump presidency worries the majority of Canadians.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/grenier-uselection-canadians-concerned-1.3713214

Seriously, you guys are starting to scare the shit out of your closest ally and neighbor. Can't imagine how Mexico feels.

It does scare us. Though I'll admit, there's also a bit of bile fascination. Like... "Oh man, we had such laughs at them during the W. Bush years, This would be sad and hilarious. Sadlarious."

To borrow from an analogy John Oliver made during our last election. It's like we're seeing this neighbor of ours we do like. Sure he's a bit of a bro and a bit meatheaded but he's there when you need to move the couch. But now he's been drinking a lot lately and we're worried about the self destructive spiral he's getting into. And that neighbor's new boyfriend is really a monumental dick and is making you drink more.

edited 9th Aug '16 1:41:03 PM by Ghilz

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#134784: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:45:03 PM

[up] ...and to follow on from that analogy, how would their Uncle be at the moment? smile

Keep Rolling On
chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
#134785: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:46:25 PM

Also going with what was said on the last page. NRA tweeted out this statement https://twitter.com/NRA/status/763110521889402880 https://archive.is/V0t1H

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Lost in Space
#134786: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:46:26 PM

[up][up]If, by uncle, you mean Great Britain, it's decided to quit its job and start doomsday prepping, and won't answer the phone because it claims that the government is listening.

[up] Stay classy, NRA. Let's say, hypothetically, that Clinton did want to repeal the Second Amendment (something she has at no point stated nor even implied). If she were elected, and got Congress and three fourths of the states to agree, then the Constitution would get amended and it would be the law of the land. Too bad, so sad.

[down] I like your analogy better than mine.

edited 9th Aug '16 1:50:05 PM by Fighteer

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#134787: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:48:49 PM

[up][up][up]Assuming you mean the UK? He's in a bitter divorce of his own stemming from showing up drunk at his wife's anniversary once and shouted racial slurs and blamed her for controlling his life. Part of him blames the liquor; the other just thinks it had to be done. He's still not sure he actually wants to divorce but they already got lawyers involved and told the kids...

edited 9th Aug '16 1:50:10 PM by Ghilz

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#134788: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:52:53 PM

[up][up][up]By maintaining its death-grip on the Republican party (which has gone off the deep end, IMO), and supporting a lunatic like Trump, the NRA is driving away moderates like myself.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#134789: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:53:05 PM

[up][up]And just how do the kids feel about this? (Assuming that the kids are Scotland, Ireland, etc.,)

edited 9th Aug '16 1:53:17 PM by kkhohoho

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#134790: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:56:20 PM

Scotland's reconsidering its decision to not move into that little flat they found across town from their parents. Especially since it's now closer to the one their mom moved into following the separation when dad got the house.

Ireland already moved out years ago after a goth phase and is hoping it can get the furniture it left at Dad's place before he gets pissed drunk again and burns the place down.

edited 9th Aug '16 2:00:22 PM by Ghilz

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#134791: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:57:23 PM

Scotland and Ireland are pissed, Wales was practically strong armed into agreeing with their dad.

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Sharknado Warning
#134792: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:57:55 PM

I guess Wales in this case is the kid too young to move out.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#134793: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:58:47 PM

Yeah, it's hard to define Wales in Brexit. The Welsh people are with Scotland, but there's too many rich English pensioners living there and swaying the vote.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#134794: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:18:37 PM

@Trump voters think the election is rigged. The sad thing is that if they believed the fucking polls they'd realize that he's not doing so hot. A Trump loss shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. I just hope the Democrats don't actually try to pull something. They need to run the cleanest election possible.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#134795: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:19:35 PM

[up][up]I get the point but it sounds kind of weird to say these people's opinions shouldn't matter as much because they're a different ethnicity.

It strikes the same cord with me as the "Real America" crowd.

edited 9th Aug '16 2:20:46 PM by LSBK

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#134797: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:26:55 PM

I swear Second Amendment wonks are almost as annoying as abortion wonks.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134798: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:30:34 PM

A columnist has flat out said that Trump has already lost the election. Or at least that he needs a miracle to win. They cite previous trends, demographics, and the fact that Trump will never change his tone.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/with-only-90-days-until-the-election-trumps-steady-decline-in-the-polls-means-he-needs-a-miracle-to-win

I'm not comfortable with calling it so early, but I can't fault the foundation of their logic.

edited 9th Aug '16 2:44:25 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#134799: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:32:31 PM

My primary concern is if he can spin skipping the debates in a way that makes Clinton look bad.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#134800: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:32:34 PM

Or rather, an anti-miracle.

A terrorist attack, for example, might sway sentiment towards him.

edited 9th Aug '16 2:32:48 PM by PhiSat

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