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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134551: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:40:52 PM

It went for Romney, but since then the GOP has done nothing but fuck over the state.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#134552: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:41:56 PM

[up]X3 There are slight signs, but it's just that 538s now-cast doesn't have her winning in Arizona anymore.

North Carolia went for Romney but it also went for Obama in 2008.

edited 7th Aug '16 1:42:32 PM by Silasw

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134553: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:48:24 PM

Clinton doesn't need to win those normally red states (Arizona, Georgia, Utah, etc) that she's doing well in. All she needs to do is threaten the GOP there, forcing Trumps already poorly organization campaign to divert resources there.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#134554: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:51:12 PM

I'm not sure if Trump's campaign even know how to divert resources. Hell the man's ego is such that he might stick his head in the sand and refuse to admit he's having trouble in such states.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134555: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:53:50 PM

So, what Romney did? And we all know what that ended (with Mitt not even having a concession speech ready).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#134556: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:56:14 PM

I've got a question. I recently saw a commercial for a hotel chain that used a fake presidential candidate as their promotional candidate. That got me wondering, what do the rules about campaign financing and political ad airtime say about a presidential candidate doing a paid promotion for a product or company during the election?

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#134557: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:59:10 PM

They can probably do it as the ad isn't for them but for the product, it would be free media like Trump appearing on the news. The legality will be the same as that for reruns of The Apprentice.

Thing is no product that wasn't heavily partisan would run such an ad, you're going to alienate 50% of your possibly buyers, so unless only people from one party buy your product it would be insane to do.

Plus the mockery and ridicule a candidate would get for such a thing would be huge, it would be one of the least presidential things a candidate could do.

edited 7th Aug '16 2:00:03 PM by Silasw

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#134558: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:10:14 PM

Clearly we should all just vote for Alice Cooper.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#134559: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:11:25 PM

[up] Vote for a potential President Furnier?

Keep Rolling On
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#134560: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:13:14 PM

He legally changed his name, so it'd still be President Alice Cooper.

Plus, he'll make Billion Dollar Babies the national anthem.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#134561: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:19:30 PM

[up]Well, why not have Queen's corpse as Secretary of State?

edited 7th Aug '16 2:24:16 PM by fredhot16

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#134562: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:37:41 PM

On the subject of the Republicans not even trying to learn if they are defeated, I disagree. I think instead they go for Cruz-style uber conservatives to take up the mantle, since he's a very different ccandidate from Trump.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#134563: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:44:38 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember part of the reason that the Republicans aren't dead as a party yet is because a lot of people just straight up don't believe they actually mean what they say? Like, in 2012, a lot of people either didn't believe their candidates said a lot of the crazy stuff they did, and if confronted with it, just brushed it off as them playing to the base for votes.

Which is kind of funny, how they get to stay competitive because people just assume they're lying about their intentions, while Democrats (Hilary being example number 1) get filleted over even the impression of dishonesty, real or imagined.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#134564: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:46:16 PM

That still happens. Just look at all the people saying Trump doesn't really represent Republican values.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#134565: Aug 7th 2016 at 3:28:11 PM

I don't expect or want Clinton to win Arizona...I do hope she can make them expend resources there and hopefully have Ann Kirkpatrick force John Mc Cain out.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#134566: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:16:28 PM

Why don't you want her to win Arizona?

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#134567: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:29:26 PM

In apropos of nothing, how do you rig an election? Any election at any level? Especially an U.S election?

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A procrastination in of itself
#134568: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:43:49 PM

Make it so that certain people can't vote, that's generally how it's actually done. The method tends to be either voter ID laws, reduction of early voting and closing polling stations in certain areas.

Theoretically it could be done via (in order of likelihood) stopping recounts, faithless electors, messing with ballot counting, and at the bottom of the barrel actual voter impersonation.

edited 7th Aug '16 4:44:18 PM by Silasw

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#134569: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:44:03 PM

[up][up] You can't, it's effectively impossible. I've interned at the State Election Commission, and the amount of safeguards to ensure proper voter count is utterly ludicrous. I'd say there are more protocols, than launching a nuclear weapon.

edited 7th Aug '16 4:44:15 PM by TacticalFox88

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#134570: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:50:20 PM

[up] It depends on the state; some have much less oversight than others.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#134571: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:52:36 PM

Any possibility or signs of it happening in this election in November?

Let me make this clear: I do not believe, at all, that the election was rigged against that douchebag. I'm only asking a question.

edited 7th Aug '16 4:58:57 PM by fredhot16

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#134573: Aug 7th 2016 at 4:55:34 PM

[up][up]I think it's a bit too early to say if anything will happen.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#134574: Aug 7th 2016 at 5:01:43 PM

Voter suppression has been tried but it's largly being struck down in many states, some will leak though but it's not gonna be that massive.

The other stuff is all hypothetical and highly unlikely, recount shenanigans requires a very close election and faithless electors requires the same, neither of which seem likely.

edited 7th Aug '16 5:02:35 PM by Silasw

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Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#134575: Aug 7th 2016 at 5:32:42 PM

What the GOP needs in a candidate is someone like Kasich, someone who can say they are in favor of socially liberal positions while actually being against them, someone with a strong record of fiscal conservatism who has a strong approval rating with their home constituency.

What they'll get depends on whether Trump's defeat (go outside, spit and curse) takes the wind out of the know-nothing racists' sails or just makes them madder.


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