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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#134001: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:50:50 AM

At this point it really seems like he's trying to throw the election without dropping out (because after all, that would make him a "loser", and Trump can't be a loser!). More and more in the GOP are getting fed up with his comments and jumping to the Democratic side, so it might be working.

In fact, while it's obviously too early to call it for Clinton, more than one news outlet has ran opinion pieces suggesting that Trump knows he's going to lose and thus is trying to shift the blame by saying things like "the election is rigged".

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#134002: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:54:50 AM

To be honest, I think he might be telling the truth. For once.

He's rigged it to explode. No self-torpedoing for Trump: he's going for full-on demolition-and-laser-display. tongue

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#134003: Aug 3rd 2016 at 6:18:09 AM

Ramidel said a few pages back that the Democrats are the party of big business and that really isn't the case still. Businesses have to distance themselves from some Republican politicians presently to avoid offending customers, but they're still very much in the tank for the GOP, especially as the Democrats are finally starting to abandon the old neoliberal consensus and start to support expanded labor rights, loosening welfare restrictions, and expanding social security.

Big business may support Clinton over Trump, but only very grudgingly because Trump's mad scheme for debt consolidation would ruin everyone.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#134004: Aug 3rd 2016 at 6:23:41 AM

@worldtrumps: Canada is surprisingly quiet. Despite an islamic attack on our parliament (the attacker literally could have opened a side door and assassinated the prime minister), letting in 25,000 syrian refugees (with even more private sponsors trying to get more in), and our oil rich province being in the biggest financial crisis of it's life (plus one of it's biggest citites being burnt down) there hasn't been any dipshit demagogues rising to infamy. Trudeau's numbers are still high, actually, despite not doing a whole lot with his ironclad control over the country.

@trumpthisweek: It's almost comical how bad he's been doing recently. Like even his followers are cringing at his repeated attacks on the khan family. It could have been just one more tragic speech at the DNC but he keeps bringing up and at this point the father might as well be a full time pundit on CNN.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#134005: Aug 3rd 2016 at 6:50:49 AM

Trump might unwittingly be instrumental in rehabilitating the honour of Muslims in the American public eye. Springtime for Hitler indeed!

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#134006: Aug 3rd 2016 at 7:34:11 AM

I can't tell if that's an intentional or an accidental invoking of Godwin's Law. Either way, might as well compare him now and get it over with.

"If you spend all your heart / On something that has died / You are not alive and that can't be a life"
CobraPrime Sharknado Warning from Canada Since: Dec, 1969 Relationship Status: Robosexual
Sharknado Warning
#134007: Aug 3rd 2016 at 7:48:49 AM

[up][up][up] To be fair with Trudeau - not abusing his ironclad control over the country if he got it was basically his entire platform, and the man's mostly kept to it (To the point that the number of public consultations he's created on various issues risk making him seem inactive).

The worst part is that I get the impression other countries elsewhere in the world are breeding their own Trumps around the same time.

Lets see, Maduro in Venezuela, Erdogan in Turkey, Boris in the UK, Marine Le Pen in France, Bolsonario in Brazil, Geert Wilders in Netherlands, Putin in Russia, Abe in Japan and the list goes on.

Worth pointing out that quite a few of those predate Trump. Some by quite a while Hell, Marine LePen is positively ancient, and she's following the steps of her father who founded her party (Who was IMHO even worse than she is, not that she's not terrible)

edited 3rd Aug '16 7:49:04 AM by CobraPrime

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#134008: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:01:49 AM

"Muslim families of fallen U.S. soldiers driven to oppose Trump" - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN10E1NS

Basically Muslims who would otherwise have voted Republican have had their party loyalty destroyed by Trump and are actively working to keep him out.

It seems optimistic to say so but it's looking more and more like this is the straw that broke the camel's back.

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:02:32 AM by sgamer82

Khudzlin Since: Nov, 2013
#134009: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:15:11 AM

[up][up] Le Pen's father was more blatant about his xenophobia (racism, antisemitism, probably any bigotry you care to name). That doesn't make Marine less horrible.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#134010: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:17:08 AM

[up][up]How ironic that the guy who won the nomination for his anti-Islamic rhetoric is gonna lose the general because he insulted a dead Muslim and his family.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#134011: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:18:04 AM

A dead American Muslim war hero's family, to boot.

Perian Since: Jun, 2016
#134012: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:23:38 AM

What if Trump drops out before the election? Could the GOP still send Kasich or Cruz, for example?

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:24:02 AM by Perian

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#134013: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:25:03 AM

Captain Khan seemed to be one of those living (pun unintended) proofs that bigotry is dumb as fuck. I thank Trump for ensuring that everyone keeps talking about him.

I wish we could get the same in France. Maybe tricking Le Pen into insulting the memory of Ahmed Merabet or Imad Ibn Ziaten? Sadly, I think she is too smart for that.

[up] Trump's entire macho rhetoric means that quitting before the fight would largely destroy his business (which probably isn't at its best now that it becomes hard to hide how much of a human excrement he is). He won't. It would make him look like a loser.

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:26:27 AM by Julep

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#134014: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:25:28 AM

[up][up]The general consensus seems to be Trump's ego won't let him drop out. He rather throw the election and claimed it was rigged against him than acknowledge any kind of loss or defeat

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:25:53 AM by sgamer82

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#134015: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:25:46 AM

Trump isn't going to drop out. Even if he feels he can't win, he's not going to go down without a fight.

[nja]

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:26:23 AM by tclittle

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megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#134016: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:25:52 AM

[up]That will probably depend on each state's laws regarding withdrawn candidates - some states will print ballots with candidates who've died before the election.

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#134017: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:27:41 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Kasich is running as a libertarian and the GOP bosses just flatout hate Cruz.

Even then, Trump dropping out will cause a huge loss of morale on the base.

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:30:57 AM by NoName999

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#134018: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:29:14 AM

[up]Kasich is actually running?

[down]Ah.

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:37:53 AM by sgamer82

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#134019: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:37:00 AM

Oh sorry, I confused Kasich with Gary Johnson for some weird reason. [lol]

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134020: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:43:37 AM

A Trump aide is now trying slander the Khans with the old Sharia law attack.

This was after he had to retract a statement that Obama was responsible for Captain Khan's death. She then blamed it on Clinton.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/trump-katrina-pierson-khan-obama-clinton/index.html?sr=fbCNN080316trump-katrina-pierson-khan-obama-clinton0325PMVODtopLink&linkId=27241205

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:43:49 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#134021: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:45:41 AM

Of course they blame the rules of engagement. That always comes up.

They just won't be happy until we start gunning down every brown person we see won't they?

Oh really when?
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#134022: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:47:51 AM

Whatever works to avoid more people pointing out that the US military (even the Marines) is significantly less trigger happy than some US police departments, I guess.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134023: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:48:49 AM

And even if the ROE were the cause, Clinton had nothing to do with those.

The Trump campaign just keeps digging.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#134024: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:52:29 AM

What do you suppose the over/under is on the % margin of popular vote victory at this point? (For reference, LBJ defeated Goldwater by 22.6 pct pts in 1964 and Reagan defeated Mondale by 18.8 pct pts in 1984).

edited 3rd Aug '16 8:52:41 AM by megarockman

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#134025: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:54:22 AM

I doubt it will be that big. The US is too polarized for popular vote landslides to happen.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

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