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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#133851: Aug 2nd 2016 at 4:34:56 AM

Utah would have to vote blue and the last time they did that the internet hadn't been invented. The linked site doesn't give us any info on the poll so unless a few more from recognizable pollsters show up I'll call it an outlier.

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#133852: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:38:04 AM

It's still heavily unlikely, and Utah would be the one case where turnout against Trump would not translate to downticket victories for Democrats, the voters there would just be making a statement, although if enough of them flipped to Gary Johnson or just plain didn't vote, Hillary could be in striking distance there. Or Johnson himself for that matter, which would still deny Trump the E Vs.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#133853: Aug 2nd 2016 at 7:09:05 AM

@Ghilz I know that, this is also a problem for users with multiple devices or users who move from hotspot to hotspot.

@ Discar Those sign on also require every single user on the network to be registered in the company, which is simple if you're talking about a limited number of users but it becomes a clusterfuck at national level.

@Medinoc proposed one of the the easiest and least invasive way to implement those, though most parenting websites already block websites with adult content, which is easy because most of them have easily recognized html tags that identify them as such.

Also those I Ds sing on are implemented at the transport layer, which puts the identification of the user in a server that gathers the user's ID and then authenticates it to allow the user access to the internet as a whole. For that to work you need a robust server that is physically close to the devices it is authenticating and you need a very powerful server to handle all the users accessing it.

At government level you'd work at the Link Layer which would create a massive bottleneck, that would basically force each device connected to the internet, like every cellphone, notebook, touchpad and computer to send a access requisition to be validated first and then sent back and refreshed if needed to. This amounts to Google like clusters worth of authentication servers to handle the data spread across the United States just to deal with the US internet traffic alone.

And lets be frank, having all this trouble just to prevent children from watching porn is stupidly counterproductive, expensive and more often than not it is a way to implement both internet surveillance and censorship. It is much easier just to tell the parents to stop asking the state to do the parenting for them and tell them to install some parenting control softwares on their devices.

Besides there are parents who don't think that their children seeing porn is such big deal anyway, and I am pretty sure the people proposing those bans and restriction at one point or another borrowed their fathers playboy/hustler stash before reaching the legal age.

edited 2nd Aug '16 7:12:50 AM by AngelusNox

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#133854: Aug 2nd 2016 at 7:29:01 AM

<Peaks behind the lurker wall>

@Utah: I've been looking at the projected polls at fivethirtyeight and 270towin and they show Trump not holding a terribly strong support. Only one of the reported polls have Trump at >40%, the rest stay in the 30% range. Of course, both sites have Utah as a safe republican state so maybe the stats are an outlier. Now if you excuse me...

<Returns to lurking>

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#133855: Aug 2nd 2016 at 7:32:53 AM

On a fundemental level im perfectly ok with profiling and surveillence and all that, but they can only work if the people (or robots) in charge are 100% objective, very kind and not insane. Ie not any current human except me im the best.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#133856: Aug 2nd 2016 at 7:41:58 AM

The other problem with parental control on the internet is that those parents can block access to sites that disprove creationism, discuss proper sex ed, explain that homosexuality is perfectly normal, etc.

The internet is a very powerful tool for the rebellious child of far right wingers.

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#133857: Aug 2nd 2016 at 8:49:31 AM

An Estonian parliament member welcomes America to the information war.

They shouldn't be saying that. We are Americans. We hear the word "war" and we start prepping the bombers.

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#133858: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:16:59 AM

I don't get it, what is he saying that is even remotely dumb?

I've been looking up Biden's stuff. This guy is solid and sensible, and calls shit out when he sees it. I really like him.

On another topic, from The Atlantic: "Clinton, for the love of God, stop fucking lying! This election is yours to lose, don't let Donald Trump win by presenting bullshit!"

On Sunday, the former secretary of state told FOX News’ Chris Wallace that FBI Director James Comey cleared her of misleading the public about her rogue email server at the state department: “Director Comey said my answers were truthful, and what I’ve said is consistent with what I have told the American people, that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the emails.”

That’s wrong and she knows it, which makes it a lie.

“Clinton is cherry-picking statements by Comey to preserve her narrative about the unusual setup of a private email server,” wrote Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler, who awarded Clinton the maximum four “Pinocchios” for her whopper. “This allows her to skate past the more disturbing findings of the FBI investigation.”

Read here if you want to know about the FBI’s findings. In addition, her actions were an assault on the Freedom of Information Act and the hallowed concept of legislative oversight.

edited 2nd Aug '16 9:30:45 AM by TheHandle

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#133859: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:38:58 AM

Obama declares Trump unfit to be president. I particularly liked this quote, to the GOP: "If you are repeatedly having to say what Trump says is unacceptable, why are you still endorsing him?"

He nailed it. But of course, the sacred party line is more important than the person you elected having constant diarrhea of the mouth.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#133860: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:41:10 AM

They don't want the blame if Trump loses. They still want Trump supporters to be their supporters.

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#133861: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:42:30 AM

Trump's supporters have gotten a taste of political power, and if their candidate loses, not all of them will slink back to their homes and stash their KKK hoods in their attics. They'll make trouble for a lot of GOP candidates for quite some time to come.

edited 2nd Aug '16 9:42:50 AM by Fighteer

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#133863: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:50:57 AM

OMG, please don't post direct links to Fox News without an excerpt. I don't want to give them the dignity of more pageviews.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#133864: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:52:40 AM

[up]Basically, "Your son was a hero, and you and your wife are great people, but most Muslims are terrorists and murderers. You're the exception, not the rule."

It's not that blatant about it, obviously, but that's the general feel.

edited 2nd Aug '16 10:15:26 AM by LSBK

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#133865: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:54:37 AM

I've been looking up Biden's stuff. This guy is solid and sensible, and calls shit out when he sees it. I really like him.
I've been saying that for years. Biden has a reputation for "gaffes", but what that really seems to mean is that he embarasses the media by saying what he means and gives no fucks about what you think of it.

The best example I can think of that off hand was (IIRC) during the 2012 election cycle, where he was speaking to a predominantly black audience, and he said something like "the GOP wants to put you in chains". The media was all aflutter about good ol' gaffey Joe, accidentally making a comment that could be seen as a reference to slavery in front of a black audience.

Accidentally my ass. He knew exactly what he was doing, and it was entirely deliberate. It was basically a left-wing dog whistle: he was saying "Republicans are racist shitheads" without actually saying it. And it was glorious.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#133866: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:00:24 AM

Representative Richard Hannah (R-NY) has become the first of his party to break with it and endorse Clinton.

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#133867: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:11:24 AM

Basically, "Your son was a hero, and your and your wife are great people, but most Muslims are terrorists and murderers. You're the exception, not the rule."

It's not that blatant about it, obviously, but that's the general feel.

If I had been Trump or the GOP, I would have gone with that, pretty much verbatim. "As I said, some, I assume, are good people."

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#133868: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:12:40 AM

[up][up]Nice.

@Fighteer - <rolls eyes>

edited 2nd Aug '16 10:12:49 AM by FFShinra

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#133869: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:18:11 AM

“For me, it is not enough to simply denounce his comments. He is unfit to serve our party and cannot lead this country.

While I disagree with her on many issues, I will vote for Mrs. Clinton. I will be hopeful and resolute in my belief that being a good American who loves his country is far more important than parties or winning or losing.”

WHOOOO! Vive la revolucion!

I hope many more will follow in his footsteps.

And, while I'm being hopeful, I would love to hear, "And let's also get Judge Garland approved already! F*ck's sake, we've propagated a lot of party bullshit, haven't we?"

edited 2nd Aug '16 10:20:05 AM by TobiasDrake

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#133870: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:27:26 AM

Actually there have been Republicans who have said let there be an up or down vote in the past. It just doesn't matter because the decision to do so or not lies with Mc Connell.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#133871: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:43:22 AM

Trump has claimed that the election will be rigged against him, without offering any evidence of course.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/donald-trump-election-rigged-1.3703650

He's basically ensuring a riot if he loses.

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#133872: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:46:04 AM

Warren Buffett Takes On Donald Trump at Hillary Clinton Rally in Nebraska

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett lambasted Donald Trump Monday and challenged the Republican nominee to release his tax returns as Democrat Hillary Clinton campaigned for a single, up-for-grabs electoral vote in Nebraska.

At a raucous rally, the Berkshire Hathaway chairman and chief executive sarcastically mocked Mr. Trump, disputing the New York businessman’s claim that he can’t release his tax returns because of a continuing Internal Revenue Service audit. Mr. Buffett called the GOP nominee’s standoff with the family of a fallen soldier the “final straw” and asked Mr. Trump: “Have you no sense of decency, sir?”

Mrs. Clinton came to this Republican state, aiming to compete in an Omaha-area congressional district that could deliver one additional electoral vote to the Democratic nominee. Omaha’s best-known billionaire sought to boost Mrs. Clinton’s prospects with an enthusiastic show of support and a scathing critique of her Republican rival.

Mr. Buffett called on Mr. Trump to release his tax records and pledged to do the same, saying he would meet the New York businessman “any place, any time” so both men could field questions about their income-tax returns. Mr. Trump has cited the IRS audit as the reason for breaking with tradition and declining to make his taxes public, but Mr. Buffett said he, too, was under audit but that nothing precluded the release of their returns.

“He’s not afraid because of the IRS,” Mr. Buffett said of Mr. Trump. “He’s afraid because of you.”

While presidential elections are typically won in the big battlegrounds like Ohio and Florida, Mrs. Clinton came to the red state of Nebraska on Monday, and on Thursday, Mr. Trump travels to Maine, a state that hasn’t voted Republican for president since 1988.

The trips reflect both campaigns’ calculations that if the race winds up close, even one electoral vote could make a difference.

That is what’s at stake for Mrs. Clinton in Nebraska—one electoral vote. In Maine, Mr. Trump may have a shot at a single electoral vote, too. That’s because these states (and only these two states), allocate their electoral votes by congressional district.

So, while both states have additional votes in the Electoral College, each party sees its best chance as picking off a single congressional district that is more liberal or conservative than the rest of its state.

That formulation gives Democrats a shot at the Omaha-area district in a state that is near-certain to vote Republican overall and gives Republicans a chance in northern Maine’s vast and largely rural Second Congressional District.

The Clinton campaign began airing TV ads in Omaha last week and has a paid staffer on the ground. Mr. Trump hasn’t yet opened an office in Nebraska but plans to hire staff in the state, said Bud Synhorst, executive director of the Nebraska Republican Party.

Mrs. Clinton is the first Democratic presidential nominee to campaign in the Cornhusker State since Franklin D. Roosevelt came through on a whistle-stop tour in 1936, the state party said. The last time the state voted for a Democratic presidential candidate was in 1964.

Mrs. Clinton’s short trip—and her TV ads—serve a dual purpose, as Omaha’s media market reaches into western Iowa, a traditional battleground state.

Mr. Synhorst predicted a “tough race” for Nebraska’s Second Congressional District and said he was intrigued by Mrs. Clinton’s decision to campaign there. But he said her visit could backfire by galvanizing GOP support for Mr. Trump. “It’s invigorating our base,” he said.

Many Nebraskans will reflexively vote for Mr. Trump simply because they are Republicans, said Vincent Powers, chairman of the Nebraska Democratic Party. But he said the GOP nominee could struggle with some voters because in Nebraska, “people are nice” and “they don’t like bullies.”

“We don’t have mountains. We don’t have oceans. We have great people,” Mr. Powers said. “Donald Trump is just not a fit here.”

Keep Rolling On
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#133873: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:56:02 AM

Democrat National Committee CEO Amy Dacey has resigned sources say.

Huh, I thought I got it right the first time.

edited 2nd Aug '16 11:21:33 AM by tclittle

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Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#133874: Aug 2nd 2016 at 11:18:17 AM

[nja] Dammit.

I didn't even know the DNC had a CEO.

edited 2nd Aug '16 11:29:59 AM by Demonic_Braeburn

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#133875: Aug 2nd 2016 at 11:20:25 AM

That's Amy Dacey, FYI.

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