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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#133601: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:11:42 PM

Isn't Ohio in the rust belt?

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#133602: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:32:04 PM

The last candidate to win the Presidency without winning Ohio was Kennedy in 1960. And in the case of the Republican Party, Trump winning the Presidency without winning Ohio would be entirely unprecedented.

Which more or less means that, excluding some rather implausible scenarios, if Trump can't win Ohio, he can't win.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#133603: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:34:17 PM

You remember the pocket copy of the Constitution Khizr Khan showed off at the DNC to mock Trump with? It was in Amazon's Top 10 best selling books earlier this afternoon.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133604: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:38:22 PM

I know it's still too early, but Nate Silver now projects that Trump has a higher chance of winning the election, including Ohio and Florida. Even if he doesn't get Pennsylvania and he loses, Trump needs to lose big in order to ensure his fascist supporters crawl away in shame.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#133605: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:45:27 PM

Isn't Trump also threatened in usually Red states, like North Carolina and even Utah?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#133606: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:46:56 PM

[up][up] The polls-plus prediction has Trump losing in a landslide, but that metric hasn't been particularly reliable compared to a purely polls based metrics. Wikileaks at least claims to have more material to release on Clinton specifically, and if that's the case we'll likely see it drop closer to the election for maximum effect. Jesus Christ, it's actually happening, isn't it?

[up] He's close to the tipping point, but not close enough for them to flip; part of that is the demographic situation, which is getting worse and worse for the GOP as time goes on.

edited 30th Jul '16 7:49:52 PM by CaptainCapsase

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#133607: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:50:47 PM

[up]At least it might make the GOP/RNC get nervous and invest resources there.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#133608: Jul 30th 2016 at 9:21:18 PM

Gerrymandering is the only reason the PA state house is as disproportionately Republican as it is. Same case with our representation in Federal Congress really, where we voted handily for Obama but sent 12 Republicans for 17 representatives.

The state does have strongly Republican areas, of course, but they only have their statewide control by ghettoizing the populations of Philadelphia and, to a lesser extent, Pittsburgh, without whom PA would be West Virginia.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#133609: Jul 30th 2016 at 9:47:11 PM

I know this question isn't exactly on-topic, but I have this to ask: Were childhood obesity rates in the US starting from 2005 that large to the point the government noticed and had broadcasting companies make episodes for certain shows contain weighty aesops? Examples:

1. The Fairly Oddparents episode "Just Desserts!" (February 16, 2005)

2. The Simpsons episode "The Heartbroke Kid" (May 1, 2005)

3. The Kim Possible episode "Grande Size Me" (March 3, 2007)

edited 30th Jul '16 9:47:47 PM by HallowHawk

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#133610: Jul 30th 2016 at 11:51:46 PM

TYT coming a bit back to sanity and Secular Talk goes in the opposite direction.

I feel like I've entered the twilight zone again.

New Survey coming this weekend!
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#133611: Jul 31st 2016 at 3:20:02 AM

twilight zone? I've taken this cycle as proof the many-worlds theory of quantum mechanics and us existing in the darkest timeline.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#133612: Jul 31st 2016 at 4:29:59 AM

This is relevant to your concerns.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#133613: Jul 31st 2016 at 7:35:14 AM

Looks like the Kochs have ditched Trump to focus on the Senate races. (TRIGGER WARNING: FOX NEWS)

The political donation network backed by billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch will essentially sit out this year's presidential election and focus on keeping the Senate in Republican hands.

When Charles Koch addressed hundreds of the nation's most powerful polical donors at a weekend retreat in Colorado Springs Saturday, he lamented the choice in the race for the Oval Office between Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump.

"We don't really, in some cases, don't really have good options," Koch said in describing the "current political situation."

Mark Holden, general counsel and senior vice president of Koch Industries, told the Associated Press that the Koch network won't spend anything to help Trump directly in 2016, even though it may evoke Clinton in attacks on Democratic congressional candidates.

None of the presidential candidates are aligned with the Koch network "from a values, and beliefs and policy perspective," Holden said, citing other determining factors such as "running a good campaign" and talking about key issues "in a positive productive way." "Based on that, we're focused on the Senate," Holden said, noting that the Koch network has devoted around $42 million so far to television and digital advertising to benefit Republican Senate candidates.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#133614: Jul 31st 2016 at 7:45:16 AM

Smart fuckers. *Ptou*

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#133615: Jul 31st 2016 at 7:47:41 AM

Clinton told Fox News' Clint Evans in an interview that her mom was a big viewer of the channel saying it worried her mom because of what they were saying about her.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#133616: Jul 31st 2016 at 8:03:46 AM

An After School Satan Club could be coming to your kid’s elementary school.

In other words, the Satanic Temple is up to its usual shenanigans, trying to separate church and state.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#133617: Jul 31st 2016 at 8:18:42 AM

Clinton's mom watches Fox News?!

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#133618: Jul 31st 2016 at 8:20:54 AM

Past tense. Been gone a couple of years. Wouldn't surprise me if her mom was a republican, seeing as her dad was and Hil herself was until the 60s.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#133619: Jul 31st 2016 at 8:37:17 AM

The Southern Strategy really flipped everything, didn't it?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#133620: Jul 31st 2016 at 8:37:26 AM

@Fox: That's not something I expected.

I'm not sure if it properly explains why people watch Fox, though. Having been forced to listen to Fox news for about a week straight (my Grandpa watches it all the time-it's like white noise to him. It was...an agonizing experience, and that's coming from a conservative) what I figure: with most news media, their primary strategy is to invoke You Can Panic Now because that draws in viewers (I call this "Dystopia Scam"-they prop themselves up as La Résistance to the imagined evil establishment. Think of it as being a toned down conspiracy theory). Fox News uses a customized form of Dystopia Scam that specifically targets conservatives.

So, people watch Fox News because they've bought into the Dystopia Scam and want to feel smarter than the sheeple who watch other news media.

Leviticus 19:34
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#133621: Jul 31st 2016 at 9:17:46 AM

So Mark Cuban endorsed Hillary Clinton at a campaign event. And event in which he also accused Trump of having gone "batshit crazy" and being "a jag-off". He also opened the speech by addressing him in Russian.

Perian Since: Jun, 2016
#133622: Jul 31st 2016 at 9:31:58 AM

Colorado has single payer healthcare on its ballot and Maine has ranked choice voting.

Great news! I wonder what it would take to adopt ranked choice voting in the whole of the US?

edited 31st Jul '16 9:33:08 AM by Perian

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#133623: Jul 31st 2016 at 9:44:08 AM

It would take a lot. Literally every single elected official in the country was voted in using the current voting methods, so it will take something unimaginable for them to say "You know what? The method that got me into office isn't really that great. Let's change it."

Besides, most voters don't really understand alternative voting methods anyway.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#133624: Jul 31st 2016 at 10:10:34 AM

If you follow Major League Baseball seriously, you ought to have some knowledge of at least one other system, since the end of season awards like league MVP and Cy Young are determined by a positional voting system. (The tiny Pacific nation of Nauru is the only country in the world that uses this voting system for their elections.) Obviously, not everyone is a baseball fan, but theoretically quite a few people have been exposed to an alternate system that way.

And positional voting isn't that different from ranked choice, so...

edited 31st Jul '16 10:11:25 AM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#133625: Jul 31st 2016 at 10:13:15 AM

Khizr Khan responds to both Trump's original comments and his attempt to save face afterwards.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."

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