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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#133276: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:13:26 PM

Surprised Hillary didn't go for the jugular by playing up Trump's ties to Russia. Might be a bit too risky though.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#133277: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:13:37 PM

[up][up][up]His awkwardness seems to have worked for a lot of people. There's running joke going around the Internet about how he's auditioning to be America's Step Dad. I can think of worse memes to be associated with.

Example: "Tim Kaine is the dad your friends called when you got busted at a party, because you knew he'd be disappointed but would come and pick you up anyway."

edited 28th Jul '16 8:15:29 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#133278: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:15:31 PM

I think we gotta save Trump's ties with the Russians for debates. Really put him on the spot. Make him either renounce his current policy towards them or admit whose side he's actually on.

Oh really when?
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#133279: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:16:53 PM

Let the Russia issue fester, there's a decent chance Trump will dig his own grave with that issue.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#133280: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:17:04 PM

[up][up][up]Ah, I guess thats one way to look at it.

edited 28th Jul '16 8:17:15 PM by FFShinra

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#133281: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:17:37 PM

[up][up][up] At which point Trump will promptly use it to frame Clinton as a warmongering imperialist whose foreign policy thinking is stuck in the Cold War.

edited 28th Jul '16 8:20:05 PM by CaptainCapsase

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#133282: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:19:48 PM

Its a crazy year when Hillary Clinton can be branded as a Cold Warrior...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#133283: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:21:23 PM

[up] Trump has no policy positions other than what he believes his audience wants to hear; people really need to face the facts about him; if there's one thing about him which he doesn't oversell, it's his talent for salesmanship. Despite coming off as a complete moron to anyone with a college degree, Trump is, in his own way, a remarkably skilled orator, in that he's managed to bluff his way into a 45:55 shot at the highest office in the country with little to no concrete policy proposals and absolutely no support from the powerful interests that dominate his party.

This is going to be a hard fought election, one way or the other.

[down] I'm almost certain he does, though he would never use it since the lowest common denominator probably doesn't. He's not stupid, or at least not nearly as stupid as he comes across as in his public speeches; linguists, marketing experts, and other people focused on the art of communication have noted there's a very clear method to his madness; it's not nearly as off the cuff as it sounds.

edited 28th Jul '16 8:29:05 PM by CaptainCapsase

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#133284: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:22:13 PM

[up][up][up]If Trump even knows the word "imperialist" I'd be very surprised.

[up][up][up][up]John Oliver sums up that vision of Kaine pretty well. "After all the fear, and anger, and division, I needed stepdad to come in and tell me everything was going to be okay."

edited 28th Jul '16 8:22:44 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#133285: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:26:32 PM

[up][up] If I'm any indication, you can smell his bullshit with just a GED.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#133286: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:27:34 PM

I loved Hillary's speech. It was everything it needed to be, imo.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#133287: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:29:02 PM

I really liked her line about not trusting nukes to a guy who gets easily trolled on Twitter.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#133288: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:31:33 PM

Fantastic speech. I can't find anything to fault in it, except for a few minor policy quibbles, but the Democratic party is supposed to be a big tent and she hit all the important points.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#133289: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:34:46 PM

That's a wrap. She did well tonight.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#133290: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:34:46 PM

Here's hoping you have president Clinton (both of them) in the White House next January.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#133291: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:35:41 PM

So the DNC is officially over?

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#133292: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:36:57 PM

[up][up] If elections were won off of policy rather than personality, the outcome wouldn't really be in doubt. Unfortunately, particularly when you're talking about the national stage, they aren't.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#133293: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:40:26 PM

You know I think things will actually be alright.smile

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#133294: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:40:40 PM

Likewise: It was fine and said the things that needed saying. She's going to have her work cut out for her in the salesmanship department though.

Re: Trump and Russia: There's no (public) evidence Trump is knowingly collaborating at this time. So anything she could have said along those lines would be unfounded insinuation.

edited 28th Jul '16 8:44:57 PM by Elle

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#133295: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:43:00 PM

I can't wait to see her debate Trump. She's going to destroy him. She can bring up Mc Cain, the disabled journalist, Russia, Trump University...

He has so many fuckups to bring up.

edited 28th Jul '16 8:45:24 PM by smokeycut

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133296: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:44:24 PM

In which case I think he'll stop debating after the first loss. I wouldn't be surprised if he refuses to participate in more than one after she buries him in the first.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#133297: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:47:25 PM

I wasn't paying much attention to the debates in '08, how did she do against Obama?

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#133298: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:47:39 PM

More on the "citizen's arrest" BS. Which went nowhere. Hopefully it was just a bad idea being circulated online, and not an actual physical attempt.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#133299: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:48:06 PM

[up][up][up] And in our eyes, I'm sure she will indeed destroy Trump. Unfortunately, this thread is not even close to representative of the views of the American electorate.

@Elle: She was eviscerated in the eyes of the democratic electorate, since despite the best efforts of the DNC, they voted for him over her.

edited 28th Jul '16 8:49:09 PM by CaptainCapsase

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#133300: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:51:20 PM

Well obviously she lost but I mean did she at least put up a good challenge? Does anyone know any specific opinions about her that came about from seeing them?

edited 28th Jul '16 8:52:35 PM by Elle


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