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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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True, but advocating rape also means your advocating other things that are illegal like assault, or coercion, or drugging people against their will. It's not really the same thing.
Advocating rape logically counts as advocating sex-based discrimination, which implies hate speech against the discriminated gender (in this case, women). You have laws against hate speech. Prosecute those fuckers with them.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Donald Trump to Russia: Please Hack Hillary!
Oh sweet Jesus, he's actually trying to commit treason now isn't he?
"Yup. That tasted purple."... OK, I will lose all of what's left of my currently very minimal respect for the US federal government if they don't have the guts to charge him with treason or some other similar charge, because what the hell else would you call what he did?!
edited 27th Jul '16 9:13:46 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.... Can't you at least slap him with a huge fine for attempting to publicly solicit blatantly illegal foreign interference in domestic elections? I mean, hacking is a crime, and he's not just publicly asking for someone to do it to his political opponents, but asking a foreign country that his country is currently not on friendly terms with to do so.
edited 27th Jul '16 9:20:19 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.What i remember the FBI saying about it in their statement is basically Ain't No Rule.
Well the obligatory denials are being made
. (Interestingly the Wa Po is not running with the supposedly outrageous part of Trump's comments.) And he could go back later and claim that he was being sarcastic or something. (This is all coming after Obama made an announcement officially naming and shaming Russia for the hack and leak.)
Worth pointing out that Trump has alternated between claims of "being a great friend of Putin" and "knowing nothing about Putin" depending on what sounds better at the time.
edited 27th Jul '16 9:30:49 AM by Elle
... So you can arrest a person for sarcastically proclaiming intent to enact a suicide bombing, but you can't arrest a person for sarcastically soliciting illegal action from a foreign entity?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.You would have to prove actual conspiracy rather than just bombastic statements and even then I don't know if there's a law that covers this. I'm not sure we even have precedent.
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Bomb threats (not just suicide bombing), death threats, etc, are a bit more concrete in the "intending grievous, life-threatening harm to others" department.
edited 27th Jul '16 9:39:29 AM by Elle
Somehow I think the events of the past 2 years suggest that rethinking what "freedom of speech" means in American public life is likely to meet with as much success as gun law reform. SWAT teams can't possibly have the resources to storm that many basements...
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotOne of my conservative friends posted this to my Facebook timeline. Yes, I'm aware Rupert Murdoch owns this "newspaper" and Accentuate the Negative is in full effect, but...
Angry Sanders supporters shut down streets outside DNC
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The big issue with free speech in relation to legalizing various crimes is which crimes are classified as protestable?
I do think we should have better hate speech laws though. Stuff like outlawing nazi propaganda (except for educational purposes, like in documentaries), classifying the KKK as a terrorist organization, and making it so saying "insert group here should be killed" isn't allowed.
edited 27th Jul '16 10:22:50 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
