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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
It's an assumption to even assume there would be a country after all is said and done. Rather than multiple countries carving out their own territory and setting up little kingdoms here and there.
Anarchy is the larval stage of feudalism, after all.
edited 26th Jul '16 12:07:16 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Bingo! That's the fundemental problem I think our culture's currently facing-everyone wants to "fuck the system" and very little coherent ideals beyond that.
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Modern society is already a horrible and brutish affair; it only looks good in comparison because of how much worst things were in the past.
Google defines a revolution as "a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system."
The latter form of overthrow, that of a social order has been achieved numerous times in the past 200 years without the (violent) overthrowing of governments. The abolition movement (everywhere besides the US), the labor movement, the women's rights movement, the civil rights movement...
edited 26th Jul '16 12:15:02 PM by CaptainCapsase
So please forgive me for being a little cynical about "revolutions." The best it can do is forcing me to remember the new establishment.
Non Indicative UsernameThe latter form of overthrow, that of a social order has been achieved numerous times in the past 200 years without the (violent) overthrowing of governments. The abolition movement (everywhere besides the US), the labor movement, the women's rights movement, the civil rights movement...
Forcible means "by use of force".
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Or against the will of those on the receiving end. Moreover, there was plenty of violent use of force involved all of the examples I cited, along with civil disobedience which seriously inconvenienced those in power.
You may not like it, but to paraphrase Gahndi, if your protests aren't causing tangible problems for those in power, nothing will change except as it suits them.
edited 26th Jul '16 12:23:42 PM by CaptainCapsase
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I'm very confused as to the nature of your position at this point. So far as I can tell, it is,
"Despite being literally defined as violent, revolutions can and have been achieved without the use of violence, such as in these instances that involved the use of violence."
edited 26th Jul '16 12:24:53 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Revolution is a neutral concept. Change is neutral. The question to ask is what we're replacing the system with, and how that justifies whatever lengths we're going to to replace the old system.
Leviticus 19:34So, the latest regarding the Fort Myers shooting - 3 men (19, 19, and 22) were arrested under suspicion that they were involved in the shooting that injured 16 and killed 2, 14-year-old Sean Archilles and 18-year-old Ste'fan Strawder
, in what's assumed to be gang-related activity. Who they were actually aiming at is unknown, but fucking hell it's heartbreaking to read about.
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I'm actually with Cassandra on that point. You can force people to do things by economic and political means.
edited 26th Jul '16 12:27:51 PM by flameboy21th
Non Indicative UsernameHey revolution formed this freaking country. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't like that word (but no commie, commie bad).
edited 26th Jul '16 12:30:05 PM by flameboy21th
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edited 26th Jul '16 12:05:28 PM by CaptainCapsase