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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Well, if the RNC was a disaster (And I don't know if it was a disaster so much as really strange and uncomfortable) then of course the non partisan thing is to claim the DNC is also a disaster.
But seriously it seems like they're trying to get views for a thing that would probably get less views if accurately portrayed as going ok so far.
If you paint something that wasnt' a disaster as one you are, intentionally or unintentionally, pushing for that thing's opponent.
On what planet? Has Sanders been subjected to accusations of being corrupt? Has Sanders had every skeleton in his closet, real and imagined dug up? No he has not. MSNBC pulled for him, FOX ignored him, everyone else kept blathering on about the size of his rallies as if they mattered—and that's not getting into the unconditional love he was given by the Internet left. He was the favoured media candidate for most of the Democratic primary, by default if nothing else.
edited 26th Jul '16 8:55:50 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
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I've inferred that the media likes to portray everything they can in a negative light, especially if things aren't nearly as bad as they say they are.
The media's bias is pessimism, and their political alignments comes from which things they like to demonize.
edited 26th Jul '16 9:02:44 AM by Protagonist506
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No, he was only portrayed as a dangerous revolutionary whose supporters were mainly violent racist misogynists, that's so much better. Or idiots for not understanding how the real world works and clinging to pie-in-the-sky ideas.
And I must add that a few months ago Clinton supporters didn't act outraged when the media portrayed his supporters as violent and disorganized, so they could have seen this coming.
@Colbert: Accentuate the Negative.
You know what would be nice? A piece of media that was all about emphasizing the best in people. Like, when they would go make interviews with "the man on the street", they would cherrypick the most beautiful, intelligent, sensible statements. When they would interview politicians, they would highlight their greatest accomplishments. Their 'breaking news that aren't- would be "Crime is at an all-time low", "Child mortality keeps dropping", "Look at our rising renewable energy rate". They would pointedly not cover terrorist strikes, spree shootings, or anything else susceptible to copycat effects, except in the most boring and localized way possible. They would highlight events of union, reconciliation, and shows of mutual respect.
Trump would not get a second of airtime.
They would be the channel you tune into when you want to relax and feel good, about your life, yourself, your fellow humans, and the world at large.
24-hour Iyashikei. LTBC? The "Love-Thy-Neighbour Channel"?
edited 26th Jul '16 9:10:13 AM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.By who? I don't remember anyone playing the "dangerous revolutionary" card. Not in the mainstream media, and not even in pro-Clinton areas of the Internet like the Daily Banter. Frankly, calling Sanders a revolutionary is a misuse of the word.
Again, find me someone who claimed that a majority of his supporters were like this. The "Bernie Bros" and their cohorts certainly came under fire for this, but deservedly so. When you have a dedicated group of morons who spend all their time attacking supporters of an opposing candidate online, those people are going to get into the news. That's how it works.
Once again dogwhistles; unless you're Donald Trump, you never outright say "all Muslims are terrorists, all Mexicans are rapists" and expect to get away with it. So instead you say "I'm sure some of them are reasonable people, but some of them are clearly rapists and criminals" in a context where it becomes very clear what's actually meant to come across; "Don't support this guy, his supporters are just entitled misogynistic racists. Who are also cis-white-men, and that's terrible."
Now, that has a lot to do with the utter ineptitude of mass media at dealing with any sort of nuance and with the tendency to accentuate the negative for ratings, but there's also an element of partisan bias clearly present. Like, despite the fact that Trump is getting mind-boggling amounts of coverage, nobody other than right wing media sources are portraying him in a positive light.
edited 26th Jul '16 9:45:28 AM by CaptainCapsase
Raise your hand if anyone's surprised. Anyone?
New Survey coming this weekend!Not really. There was some rumors going around that he might be looking to start his own party, which, assuming they don't waste all their resources on bids for the presidency and instead work towards local and state elections and congressional elections in deeply blue states, could go somewhere. Strongly regionalized parties are the big exception to the two party system that inevitably forms in FPTP voting systems.
edited 26th Jul '16 9:49:33 AM by CaptainCapsase
Ambar, I actually watched the Late Show last night and what they were pushing was "Acceptance of Hillary as Inevitable," hence the name "Democratic National Convincing" and "Death. Taxes. Hillary." It plays with the recurring narrative in the polls that not a lot of people actually like Hillary Clinton, but the only alternative is Trump which makes her the more popular and sane choice. Hillary is the Inevitable Democratic Nominee and thus the Inevitable President, at least unless you want Donald Trump as President.
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edited 26th Jul '16 10:02:26 AM by majoraoftime
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I'm... Not sure how seriously I'm supposed to take this...
I mean...
edited 26th Jul '16 10:11:03 AM by sgamer82
I think it's a satire site with the exaggeration turned Up To Eleven.
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: I would hope it's satire, but Poe's Law has overtaken pretty much every other goddamned thing about this election and the people opinionating on it, so it really wouldn't surprise me to find out it isn't.
edited 26th Jul '16 10:13:53 AM by Reflextion
Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.Linked headlines include "CARL DIGGLER PRESENTS Six Thirty Eight.com: Your New Home For Accurate Forecasting", "WARNING: 5 Ways Obama Could Personally Try To Take Your Gun" and "Jeb’s “Lose the Primary, to Win the General” Plan Going 50% Perfectly"
@smokeycut: Unfortunately, Accentuate the Positive does not get as much viewership as Accentuate the Negative does, and why what Handle suggested would never work. Negativity and cynicism sells for any sort of news over positivity and optimism.
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Depends on which media, but wouldn't you say they like her better than Sanders?
Partisan in favour of whom, though?
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.