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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#132501: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:23:15 PM

It's sadness but I'm not sure what at, it may well be at Sanders losing.

And Sanders just finished "I am proud to stand with her tonight"

edited 25th Jul '16 8:24:37 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#132502: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:26:43 PM

I assume that all this god stuff is standard for an American convention?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#132504: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:33:28 PM

[up][up] Unfortunately. It probably won't be the case in a few decades since about 40% of American millennials are nonreligious.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:33:38 PM by CaptainCapsase

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#132505: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:33:37 PM

So far, the DNC seems shaping up be just what I needed, and what I think just about everyone needs; a strong message of hope.

To be honest, that message of hope was how I feeling during the RNC. Here's hoping this doesn't become the DNC's message of hope for good measure.tongue

edited 25th Jul '16 8:34:04 PM by kkhohoho

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#132506: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:35:15 PM

The network coverage ended after Bernie's speach but I gather there's a rabbi up to deliver a closing benediction and yes, some nod to religion is usual in these events. The better ones will feature a diverse variety of faiths. Even non-evangelical politics is expected to at least give a nod to it.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#132507: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:36:54 PM

@Captain - Speaking as a man of faith, there is nothing "unfortunate" about mentioning God. It's a cultural thing, move along.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:37:16 PM by FFShinra

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#132508: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:37:12 PM

Yeah they had a rabbi talking about God for a bit before the recess was gavelled and declared.

[up] Some people don't like religon and politics being mixed, especially when it's so common it tends to make it seem like people who aren't of faith aren't welcome or true Americans (one nation under God and all that).

edited 25th Jul '16 8:38:21 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#132509: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:37:36 PM

The interviews with these people are sickening me.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:37:47 PM by FFShinra

majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#132510: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:38:05 PM

[up][up][up] Religion doesn't brush quite this closely up against politics in most Western countries. That too is a "cultural thing", although you'd perhaps expect people in an American politics thread to be used to it.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:40:03 PM by majoraoftime

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#132511: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:39:53 PM

Yeah but again, its not a thing...unless its Cruz or someone.

Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#132512: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:43:24 PM

Than why mention it constantly? We don't bring up our sexual fetishes either in political speeches just because they're personally important.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#132513: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:43:42 PM

[up][up][up][up]What interviews with whom?

[up]Because there's still a distrust of athiesim in this country. But also a potential chance to show off diversity cred in the selection of religious speakers.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:48:32 PM by Elle

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#132515: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:49:06 PM

What are they saying?

Oh God! Natural light!
majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#132516: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:49:46 PM

[up][up][up][up] it is, as Shinra pointed out, just in the culture. The US is much religious relative to other Western countries, so politicians bring up religion more often. It would be awkward and unusual in a European or Canadian context, but that's just how she rolls. It will likely fade as religiosity decreases.

As it stands, atheists are the least-trusted religious group in the US, though.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:52:15 PM by majoraoftime

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#132517: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:49:52 PM

[up][up]"I trust Sanders in whatever he says." "He said you should vote for Clinton" "I won't do that."

EDIT- Politico has changed its tune about the convention. "Pulled back from the brink, says the headline". It's a start.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:52:49 PM by FFShinra

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#132518: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:52:16 PM

I do agree that religion should be kept away from politics (hell, that's in our friggin' constitution), but I don't see religion fading as a good thing. Religion becoming more common isn't necessarily a good thing either. It's personal, so people shouldn't pressure others to gain or drop their beliefs.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#132519: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:53:04 PM

[up][up]Did they give a reason why?

edited 25th Jul '16 8:53:26 PM by Kostya

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#132520: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:54:06 PM

They don't trust her. She supports TPP. She's a corporate toad. The usual.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#132521: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:55:31 PM

There's a lot of them saying their voices aren't being heard. One lady cited Clinton not coming out against the TPP, despite the fact that she has, and that it was insulting that Sanders was the last to speak. She's not exactly up on her Clinton news, and apparently doesn't think being the finale is a good thing. In any case, a lot of these people clearly dislike Clinton FAR more than they trust Sanders, and are doing mental backflips.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#132522: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:56:09 PM

So they trust Sanders, don't trust Clinton, and then Sanders tells them to vote for her because he trusts her. How on earth can they defuse that logic bomb?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#132523: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:56:51 PM

Wait, what? Being the last to speak is generally considered the position of prestige for the night.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#132524: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:57:45 PM

[up]Not if you're looking for a reason to be offended I guess.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#132525: Jul 25th 2016 at 8:58:37 PM

Apparently the delegates out of Southern Calafornia were the ones most organised in protest Clinton and being pains in the arse.

Oh and apparently Sanders "we must make sure that the TPP isn't not passed in the lame duck session" bit wasn't in the script.

edited 25th Jul '16 8:59:43 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

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