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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
While there seems to be largely fluff involved, there is one in particular that talks about how the DNC was covering up the funds shifting from State-level election campaign to the Presidential one
, which has long-been alleged, but that email exchange gives a lot more credence to.
Aside from that, while I agree that what the DNC did is akin to Dick Dastardly Stops to Cheat, the point most people will take away is that they cheated at all.
Oof - I just got pointed to a really tasteless one where "Marshal L" asked about having someone question Sanders' religious beliefs
.
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:04:17 PM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Nobody is denying it isn't Handle but I also don't see anything in that article that I'd classify as criminal. I think some people in the DNC should definitely resign over this but it's not like Hillary specifically asked them to do this. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if her reaction was to order them to stop helping her.
Is it cheating if you don't actually do it?
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:02:46 PM by Kostya
Hello 1st time poster in this thread. That wikileaks drop? They had that ifno for a month. Also they just doxxed a lot of Democrats donors SSI numbers with that drop too.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/wikileaks-may-just-published-ssn-credit-card-number-182904759.html
Reposting on the new page since I doubt anyone will read the bottom of the previous one...
One particularly distasteful email had "Marshal L" ask if someone could publicly pin down Sanders' religious beliefs in an effort to cost him points among the devout crowd
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Legal? Sure. But that type of collusion with a Presidential candidate (or rather, against a particular candidate) as part of a National party is borderline vile.
And yes, cheating still matters even when it wouldn't be needed at all. Why else would we even have that trope?
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I'm not saying it doesn't matter if it's not needed. I'm asking if it matters when it was never put into practice. Was this stuff even done? I never heard anything about people questioning Bernie's religion.
Why did they wait if that's the case? If their whole plan is to discredit Hillary then why release this shit a week before the DNC after Sanders already conceded the race?
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:11:04 PM by Kostya
It was asked in Flint, Michigan back in March
, and may have been what that email was referring to.
In regards to the "does it matter", it's still suspicious as hell that they were colluding like that against Sanders in the first place, as the ideal would be allowing the public to decide for themselves without intervention. Granted, that's what wound up getting Trump as the Republican candidate, but still.
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I meant in regards to the "he skated by" comment in the email, rather than the "we need to ask this" one.
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:24:02 PM by ironballs16
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That was in March. The article says the email was sent in May.
edit: I'm not denying it's suspicious. If Hillary doesn't clean house at the DNC over this then I'm going to lose a lot of respect for her. Still, hopefully none of these emails reveal that she asked them to do this for her.
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:19:37 PM by Kostya
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians (or elements in Russia, Putin might be smart enough not to pull this) started covertly supporting Trump.
EDIT: Clinton has selected Tim Kaine as her VP.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politics/hillary-clinton-vp-pick/index.html
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:21:29 PM by Rationalinsanity
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Going by his Wikipedia page
, he strikes me as something of a Blue Dog Democrat - but a fairly reasonable one, as evidenced by his shift in position regarding abstinence-only sex ed to a more comprehensive one after having sufficient proof that the former is horribly ineffective.
Edited that part - he was abstinence-only, but later shifted his position, so yay for that, at least.
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:31:49 PM by ironballs16
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Yeah, she really needs to make a more exciting campaign; she needs to wrest control of the news cycles away from Trump in order to win this.
@Kostya: Based on the article, they got their hands on this fairly recently, presumably past the point where it would've made a difference.
edited 22nd Jul '16 5:31:47 PM by CaptainCapsase

Yeah, at most they discussed ideas to plant in the media's collective head. And the media was running those ideas from the start anyway. There is zero sign of anything approaching fraud.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.