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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
They're worth a lot politically, if the US refused the defend the Baltics then the entire of NATO would collapse, it would be taken as proof that the US has no desire to actually defend its allies and that we in Europe woudl be better off making friendly with the Russians.
Also they're perfectly defensible, you just use MAD to defend them, it's worked so far.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranPossibly, though I suspect that Russia would have no interest in actually teaming up with the US, certainly not with Trump, he would be used and discarded as the useful idiot he is by Putin.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyranedited 21st Jul '16 6:35:10 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.An actual, for-reals civil war is not going to happen even under a Trump presidency. An uptick in violence and domestic terrorism, maybe. But you're not going to see states trying to secede or army units going rogue, and that's what it would take for a civil war. A Trump presidency would not be good for America, but let's not get hysterical.
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Ghost in the Shell's mind-bogglingly silly global politics never fail to amuse.
edited 21st Jul '16 6:50:47 AM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.@Marq: Despite the hyperbole, in the near term, a Trump presidency would do no such thing. If he actually managed to accumulate dictatorial power (very, very unlikely even given the political climate; despite the parallels to 1930's Germany things have a long way to go before they get that bad), that might be a possibility, but the US has a long way to go before it's in danger of a civil war or revolution. The revival of militant left wing groups and black nationalist groups is a distinct possibility though.
edited 21st Jul '16 7:18:13 AM by CaptainCapsase
I could see army units going rogue, all it would take is Trump to order the military to commit crimes against humanity and units to refuse, followed by Trump trying to have troops court-marshalled for refusing to obey his orders.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyranedited 21st Jul '16 7:03:13 AM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.You and I wouldn't define it as going rogue but I suspect Trump would, hell he's nuts enough that I could imagine him ordering them to simply be attacked. Now such a situation would likely just result in the military sitting on this hands and refusing Trump's orders, but if Trump tried to have civil forces detail and try military forces things could get messy.
edited 21st Jul '16 7:18:22 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

Wait is that picture meant to be her giving a Nazi salute? Because I was assuming they hadn't included an image of the salute itself.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran