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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#131251: Jul 20th 2016 at 9:54:29 PM

God, does he even have a soul?! Everything he says just scares me more and more. How are his more moderate supporters able to ignore these things?

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#131252: Jul 20th 2016 at 9:57:13 PM

[up] His supporters literally don't care about anything other than preserving white supremacy and keeping brown people and other minorities in their place.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#131253: Jul 20th 2016 at 9:58:42 PM

That's it then. NATO won't survive a Trump administration.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#131254: Jul 20th 2016 at 9:59:47 PM

i don't think "moderate" and Trump go very well together, but if my experiences in my country hold true elsewhere, it might just be that people have some VERY screwed up priorities.

Down here in Brazil we have a politican pretty similar to Trump in a lot of ways, except he's much less comical (which only makes him more frightening). Apparently a lot of support for him is along the lines of "Ok so he's racist, sexist, and a homophobe BUT he's not corrupt like all our other politicians!!!", when there's no real indication that the latter is the case and he's made a buffoon of himself on multiple occasions, he just doesn't have the media lambasting him and his every mistake 24/7.

I have heard/read that some of the support for Trump is along similar lines, the whole idea of "he can't be bought".

It's like, yeah ok, but he's still a raging asshole so that's pretty much worthless.

edited 20th Jul '16 10:01:10 PM by wehrmacht

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#131255: Jul 20th 2016 at 10:02:33 PM

[up][up]Then we'll really need this EU army.

edited 20th Jul '16 10:03:21 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#131256: Jul 20th 2016 at 10:05:08 PM

With Brexit, the EU is in jeopardy of being dissolved, with a Trump presidency, NATO could be dissolved too.

This is literally the most important election since 1964.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#131257: Jul 20th 2016 at 10:08:39 PM

[up][up]Any chance Canada can get in on that?

And in another case of the GOP being classless assholes, here are some Hillary Clinton souvenirs for sale at the RNC. These things are truly disgusting.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/republican-convention-attacks-hillary-clinton-1.3687478

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#131258: Jul 20th 2016 at 10:12:41 PM

[up]...Wow. Party of responsibility and maturity everyone.

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#131259: Jul 20th 2016 at 10:18:07 PM

Republican Platform part 3: The Good, the Bad and the Trump

GOP platform proposes turning EPA into a commission.

Delegates drafting the RNC platform approved removing language encouraging a two-state solution for Israelis and Palestinians.

China's Foreign Ministry urged the GOP to stop making "groundless accusations" against China in its party platform, which says China practices cultural genocide in Tibet and has ludicrous claims in the South China Sea.

The newly approved Republican platform expands the party’s support for turning over federal lands to the states.

RNC delegates approved a platform that calls for caling back the Dodd-Frank financial overhaul, calling it the Democrats' "legislative Godzilla."

How are his more moderate supporters able to ignore these things?

They'd probably argue that this mostly meaningless pandering meant to rally the troops and sway the defectors. After all the platform is non-binding.

Still the fact that the GOP is pandering this hard to the far-right is probably not a good sign. From an objective standpoint, this is the most conservative platform in the history of the Republican Party.

edited 20th Jul '16 10:23:12 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#131260: Jul 20th 2016 at 10:31:39 PM

[up]

Good thing is that they'll piss off China. I need more of it.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#131261: Jul 20th 2016 at 11:22:51 PM

Republican Platform part 4: "Forget it, Jeb. It's Trumptown."

The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces.

First openly gay Republican on GOP Platform Committee: ‘Why Am I Even Here?’.

Republican Party platform calls North Korea a 'slave state'.

A panel crafting the Republican Party’s platform on trade has removed all references to the TPP trade agreement, citing Donald Trump’s rejection of the deal and the difficult politics that Republican incumbents are navigating.

The Republican Platform and the Federal Government.

A basic rundown of their demands:

  • Cut the pay and benefits federal employees receive.

  • Union representatives in the federal workforce should not be allowed to be paid for conducting union business and that federal workers shouldn’t be compelled to join a union or pay dues

  • Attempt to end the TSA's union.

  • Impeach IRS commissioner John Koskinen.

  • Reform the VA.

edited 20th Jul '16 11:26:25 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#131262: Jul 20th 2016 at 11:30:37 PM

Republican Party platform calls North Korea a 'slave state'.

Half expected them to call them a model of democracy, but apparently they're not that crazy. Oh, right, Communism. Forgot about that old boogeyman.

A panel crafting the Republican Party’s platform on trade has removed all references to the TPP trade agreement, citing Donald Trump’s rejection of the deal and the difficult politics that Republican incumbents are navigating.

I can't even call this a silver lining. This is just part of Trump's "fuck all trade agreements" plan. Hillary is opposing the TPP for being crazy, Trump is opposing it for not instantly giving America the world.

edited 20th Jul '16 11:32:01 PM by Discar

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Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#131263: Jul 20th 2016 at 11:51:44 PM

[up][up]

Oh wow, she's part of a party that systematically apposed LGBTQ rights and the wonders why people say such 'hurtful' things.

Like. Miss, really? Come down to the south and enjoy the radiant heat of bigotry wafting off of our republican leaders. Enjoy the sound of your rights being subjugated to other people's religious convictions.

The Republican Party being a paragon of liberty and equality? Give me a goddamn break.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#131264: Jul 21st 2016 at 12:41:16 AM

"Half expected them to call them a model of democracy, but apparently they're not that crazy. Oh, right, Communism. Forgot about that old boogeyman. "

Considering is the same damn party that pander to the sore loser sof ex-slave states, in what can be consider the biggest Alt-right version of a safe space, where the war as never lose, black and lincon are trigger words and dead black man are consider a healthy way of venting.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#131265: Jul 21st 2016 at 1:40:33 AM

So the day after Chris Christie gave a scathing speech at the RNC against Hillary Clinton, leading a crowd shouting "Guilty!" and "Lock her up!", Hillary released a video recorded back in February of Christie hugging her and having a friendly, jovial chat.

"All I do is hug Democrats. It gets me in trouble all the time."

edited 21st Jul '16 1:40:57 AM by RavenWilder

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#131267: Jul 21st 2016 at 2:19:29 AM

Laura Ingraham accused of doing a Nazi salute during her speech.

Yeah, she did pretty much make an intentional salute briefly, it's fairly obvious. Just a reminder that the right-wing was really into Nazism back in the day before Hitler started actually waging war, America actually started fighting them, and the Holocaust was revealed. Charlie Chaplin was pretty much hounded constantly even after the war because he dared to criticise the Nazis, amongst his other left-wing views and his refusal to participate in the McCarthyism communist witch-hunts.

edited 21st Jul '16 2:22:36 AM by Cronosonic

TheWanted Since: Oct, 2013
#131268: Jul 21st 2016 at 3:02:56 AM

[up] oh come on. Cut the hysteria. It looks more like she was waving to the crowd, then had a moment of realization that is what it would look like so she moved her hand back.

This thread is getting really stupid.

edited 21st Jul '16 3:03:36 AM by TheWanted

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#131269: Jul 21st 2016 at 3:33:39 AM

Cruz swerved into libertarian territory in his speech where he refused to endorse Trump.

But under the rubric of “a return to freedom,” Cruz embraced a “vision for our future” — one he implied was “better” than both Clinton’s and Trump’s — that emphasized his more libertarian leanings.

Gone were the hard-edged appeals to the religious right. In their place were lines like “gay or straight, the Bill of Rights protects the rights of all of us to live according to our conscience” and “The Internet? Keep it free from taxes, free from regulation.” Cruz even reminded the audience, implicitly, that he supports letting each state decide whether to legalize marijuana, which puts him well outside the mainstream of the party.

“We deserve leaders who stand for principle,” Cruz said, again contrasting himself with Trump. “Unite us all behind shared values. Cast aside anger for love. That is the standard we should expect, from everybody.”

When the delegates in the Quicken Loans Arena realized that Cruz was reaching the end of his remarks with no endorsement in sight, many began to boo. Some threatened Heidi Cruz, who had to be escorted backstage.

The senator didn’t back down. In an apparent allusion to the failed, months-long campaign by some of his supporters to free the GOP delegates to “vote their consciences” in Cleveland, Cruz urged “those listening” not to “stay home in November.”

“Stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution,” Cruz said.

The message was unmistakable: It’s OK if you can’t stomach the thought of voting for Trump. Vote for true conservatives instead.

Right beneath Cruz’s podium, the delegation from New York — Trump’s home state — howled in disgust.

...

The delegates booed. Cruz’s speech was over. Their backs were turned to him.

...

Word began to spread of Republicans accosting the senator backstage; GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson reportedly refused to admit Cruz to his suite.

Predictably, Trump weighed in on Twitter.

“Wow, Ted Cruz got booed off the stage, didn’t honor the pledge!” Trump wrote in reference to the vow Cruz made last September to support the eventual nominee. “I saw his speech two hours early, but let him speak anyway. No big deal!”

Others were less sanguine. “I think it was awful,” New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie told CNN. “I think it was selfish. To say cute things like: ‘You should vote for the candidate you believe in from the top of the ticket to bottom’ — this is the kind of Washington talk that people in this country are repelled by. I sat there shaking my head.”

The bet Cruz is making is that by 2020, many of his fellow Republicans will see things differently.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#131270: Jul 21st 2016 at 3:36:01 AM

The Republicans won't defend the Baltics? Fucking hell, just roll over and give the Russians East Germany back at that point.

Oh really when?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#131271: Jul 21st 2016 at 3:37:04 AM

Did these people really expect Cruz to back Trump? After all this attacking in the primary?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
#131272: Jul 21st 2016 at 3:54:42 AM

BTW, this was what Cruz stood in front of.

Direct all enquiries to Jamie B Good
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#131273: Jul 21st 2016 at 4:30:32 AM

[up][up][up] Nah, we still have fairly good relations with Russia, even if the relationship's a bit chilly at the moment. It's the people east of us who have reason to be nervous.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#131274: Jul 21st 2016 at 4:40:57 AM

@Garcon: Trump's foreign policy strategy, if it exists seems to be "let's team up with Russia just because Putin is such a swell guy."

Which is unsurprising considering Michael Flynn is close to the Trump campaign.

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#131275: Jul 21st 2016 at 5:00:55 AM

The Laura Ingram thing is really needless muckraking. If that little wave was meant as a Nazi salute then I've inadvertently said said Heil Hitler more than I'd care to admit. [lol]

edit- Video, they're claiming the part towards the latter half where she's pointing to cheering crowd members is the "salute."

edited 21st Jul '16 5:09:32 AM by carbon-mantis


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