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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
And who pray tell am I holding in contempt? Or trying to convince to vote for my candidate of choice for that matter? I'm saying that the people who vote for Stein because "screw both parties" aren't liable admit afterwards that it was a mistake. To fall into the category I'm describing they have to already be unwilling to be convinced. Which makes your response rather inane.
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Yes, but America's position in the world makes it pretty much impossible for people to not have a position on our election, regardless of where in the world they live. Hence the relatively large amount of people from other countries in this thread.
You were replying to a response which suggested that youth voters would categorically vote third party. That doesn't seem particularly likely in my view; certainly not in swing states.
edited 19th Jul '16 6:28:56 PM by CaptainCapsase
the "Alt-Right" is a collectivist ideology that's essentially an anti-SJW. Basically, they consider the white race to be undergoing a subtle genocide through things like intermarriage and that the only way to stop it is for white people to give up their individual rights and to repel non-white influences from white society.
edited 19th Jul '16 6:29:13 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34Gary Johnson on Trump
. It's sad how sane he's sounding in comparison.
@Caspase
I don't think young people will vote Green en masse because they think both parties are equally bad. I do, however, think that those that do choose to vote that way, are unlikely to concede after the fact that they screwed up. Saying "the parties are the same" requires that you already be pretty resistant to information.
As bad as a Trump presidency would be, it's far more likely to end in a military coup than it is in a nuclear apocalypse. If people as sociopathic as Stalin can handle nukes, then Trump can.
edited 19th Jul '16 6:35:12 PM by Protagonist506
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Or just behind the times; "the parties are the same" is more or less the default state of affairs in American politics (in part due to the fact that historically both parties generally have had both progressive and reactionary wings) if you look at the long term and focus on how the country is governed when the different parties are in power. That stopped being the case relatively recently; the GOP's use of bigoted and superstitious rhetoric to attract racist and religious voters backfired quite spectacularly.
edited 19th Jul '16 6:39:57 PM by CaptainCapsase
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That's relatively recently when talking about a historical point of view.
We'll only be able to tell which is the case with hindsight.
edited 19th Jul '16 6:45:51 PM by CaptainCapsase
Is it fringe? Now I'm an outsider, but the way I see American Jews portrayed in the media the idea that Jews should marry Jews is pretty mainstream. Is that portrayal inaccurate? Or am I seeing things?
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIt's mainstream, but my impression is that Handle is implicitly saying that Jews are racist/paranoid/etc. in a way equivalent to the alt-right. Because he's citing that in relation to the alt-right distaste for/advocacy of violence against non-whites.
I probably shouldn't push the issue but I reacted because of my impression from other posts by Handle that he takes the kind of paranoia/extremism that's common of (right wing) Israelis and assumes it's true of all Jews.
I'm in line with the idea that because of how the Holocaust decimated the Jewish people, it's important to marry within the religion and/or preserve religious and cultural practices. Calling intermarriage/assimilation the "Silent Holocaust" is a horrific cheapening of the Holocaust though.
edited 19th Jul '16 7:02:20 PM by Hodor2
To be fair, right-wing Israelis outnumber left-wing ones, and about half of the world's jews are Israeli. That's a bit larger than "fringe".
However, I see your point. I feel exactly the same way about, say, MEMRI.
Or how Obama feels about FOX News. "Why do you always choose to represent the assholes?"
The two most common complaints about our two major parties is 1) "They're really just the same!" and 2) "They're too polarized!"
I lean closer to the latter position currently, though I would have said that both statements are false 4 years ago.
Leviticus 19:34I understand, since while am planning to vote for her, I actually really don't like Hillary for several reasons (for example, she's pro-choice and I consider myself to have strong anti-abortion sentiments even by Republican standards). However, Hillary is "in-context bad", where as Trump is an Out Of Context Threat. As bad as Hillary is, she's still "part of the system", so I'm willing to regard her as a Worthy Opponent-something I'm unwilling to do for Trump for various reasons.
So, my response would be: Who would you rather have in office: Nixon, or Mussolini?
edited 19th Jul '16 7:21:04 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34

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