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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#130851: Jul 18th 2016 at 2:09:40 PM

It means that it won't participate at the convention for now. Wonder if Ted Cruz's heavy string pulling in Colorado may have something to do with this...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#130852: Jul 18th 2016 at 2:10:53 PM

Would this mean anything else?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#130853: Jul 18th 2016 at 2:11:20 PM

They'll probably be replaced but *shrug*

Ok, so the thing that happened earlier was that there was a scheduled voice vote (ayes and nays per state) to formaly approve the rules of the convention (and the nomination) - a voice vote is on the floor chair's judgement as to who's louder. The Never Trump faction believed they had enough signatures to force a roll call vote with votes counted individually but the chair went ahead with the voice vote. (Twice.)

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#130854: Jul 18th 2016 at 2:12:26 PM

Kendal Unruh, the leader of the Never Trump movement in the delegates, is from Colorado.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#130855: Jul 18th 2016 at 2:13:42 PM

No surprise there. As I said, the Colorado delegation is Cruz's.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#130856: Jul 18th 2016 at 2:21:37 PM

Yes. I support ending vice laws, but forcing narcotics to seek FDA approval would be a good way of excluding substances like meth that are exceedingly harmful to consume and harmful to produce as well. The demand is always going to be there, and there's not really anything we can do to get rid of that. Trying to punish the demand just overcrowds prisons, especially when our justice system punishes it asymmetrically between races. Vice laws today mainly exist as an excuse to put black men in prison.

Instead, we should be putting the pressure on the supply line.

Exactly my point. We should be punishing the illegal manufacture and sale of drugs, not their consumption. And none of these "intent to distribute" rules that automatically imprison anyone walking around with more than a half-ounce of whatever. It's all part of a comprehensive package of reforms:

  • Eliminate felonies for possession or use of controlled substances.
  • Establish safe, regulated manufacturing and sale of controlled substances that provides an alternative to street buys. Customers who purchase are given the opportunity to enroll in treatment programs.
  • Persons found to be abusing controlled substances would be involuntarily enrolled in such programs.
  • The unregulated manufacture, sale, or distribution of controlled substances would remain a heavily punished felony, as long as we prosecute the act of selling, not just having a bunch on you.

edited 18th Jul '16 2:27:18 PM by Fighteer

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OblongReality Unwanted Anachronism. Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
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#130857: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:06:17 PM

[up]

The clean needle programs present in certain states are shown to be cost-savers, and they also reduce the amount of imprisonment for those people prone to drug incarceration.

You don't need to steal someone's property to get a clean needle, you don't use contaminated needles and spread infection/disease that is going to be treated in an ER/ED with the costs passed onto the paying customers. Lots of benefits.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#130858: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:26:03 PM

Ugh. I'm getting more and more worried each day, especially with the new republican platform.

Things are about to get "flee the country" bad for a lot of minorites, myself included.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#130859: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:26:41 PM

My dad was actually discussing with my mom about us maybe having to move out of the country.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#130860: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:28:11 PM

Anyone want a ticket to my underwater city so we can laugh as the rest of the world falls to collectivism and collapses?

Leviticus 19:34
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#130861: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:29:31 PM

Oh no, I've seen how that ends.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#130862: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:32:17 PM

At least some degree of collectivism would be an improvement over the insane individualism coming out of the GOP right now.

Generally, it's considered good form to want, you know, your constituents to not die from preventable causes.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#130863: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:33:35 PM

[up]Said constituents are too blinded by the fear that black people could benefit to care that they benefit from these policies too.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#130864: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:50:53 PM

You guys are welcome in Canada, but we expect you to man the barricades with everyone else.tongue

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#130865: Jul 18th 2016 at 3:51:27 PM

[up] Even Mexico would be a better choice than a Trump-led US.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#130866: Jul 18th 2016 at 4:16:28 PM

[up][up][up][up]I consider Trump too collectivist

edited 18th Jul '16 4:21:24 PM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#130867: Jul 18th 2016 at 4:18:16 PM

Trump applies Individualism to himself, but wants everyone to collectively follow him without question. He sorta defies definition.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Cid El Cid Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
El Cid
#130869: Jul 18th 2016 at 4:46:00 PM

Even Mexico would be a better choice than a Trump-led US.
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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#130870: Jul 18th 2016 at 5:13:43 PM

Just stay away from the Northernmost parts. You know, Shoeland and the Zed Top.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#130871: Jul 18th 2016 at 5:14:46 PM

[up]Zed and Shoeland what now?

edited 18th Jul '16 5:15:11 PM by kkhohoho

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#130872: Jul 18th 2016 at 5:20:18 PM

Just heard Rick Perry said "Make America Great Again starts by taking care of our veterans" at the RNC.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#130873: Jul 18th 2016 at 5:20:19 PM

@bat178: Given Trump's answer to "how will you make Mexico pay for the wall" carried vague implications of regime change, I'm not sure Mexico would be a nice place to be under President Trump. Or any of Latin America, given he probably thinks the CIA can just wave its hands and install dictators there just like the "good old days."

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#130874: Jul 18th 2016 at 5:31:42 PM

[up] I don't think the cartels would agree with the "regime change"...

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#130875: Jul 18th 2016 at 5:34:38 PM

Steve King just said on MSNBC that white people were the only ones who contributed to Western civilization and everyone else did nothing...

I fucking can't.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/steve-king-on-complaints-about-white-people-what-other-group-has-contributed-more-to-western-civilization/

Here's the clip for context

edited 18th Jul '16 5:35:18 PM by TacticalFox88

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