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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#130526: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:49:54 PM

[up][up] First Tuesday in the first full week in November is my understanding

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#130527: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:54:05 PM

So is it me or is the 'Trump Pence' lol extremely suggestive?

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#130528: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:54:46 PM

I usually see the crowning of Napoleon as Emperor cited as the "end" of the Revolution though according to the trope page that's not the case, so...*shrug*

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#130529: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:57:46 PM

Heh, just occurred to me, Trump/Pence > tuppence.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#130530: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:58:43 PM

The coronation of Napoleon was the end of the Ist French Republic, but not the end of the Revolution, since a lot of changes weren't reversed, and new ones were introduced.$

[up]Shave and a haircut? No Toon can resist.

edited 15th Jul '16 1:59:17 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#130531: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:01:01 PM

If you're asking, tuppence is, iirc, a way of saying two pence, or similar.

The pair shall now be referred to by me as Trumppence.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:01:24 PM by sgamer82

OblongReality Unwanted Anachronism. Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Unwanted Anachronism.
#130532: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:01:35 PM

@Handle

Of course it isn't simple, I never said it was. However, random and bloody is a rather apt description of the event. You seem to have a hard time understanding that you've conflated what I was saying with your preconceived ideas.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#130533: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:01:51 PM

Election Day is even more bizarre than that - it's the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November, meaning it can be as early as the 2nd.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#130534: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:03:29 PM

It's an apt description of one period of it, the Terror itself. The first part of the Revolution was relatively civil.

SilentlyHonest Since: Oct, 2011
#130535: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:05:43 PM

This may be an onion article but this is article man, right on the nose.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#130536: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:09:39 PM

Random and indiscriminate acts of violence pretty well sums up the French Revolution.

However, random and bloody is a rather apt description of the event. You seem to have a hard time understanding that you've conflated what I was saying with your preconceived ideas.

It is an "apt description" that "pretty well sums up" the FR in the same way that "there's poverty and disease" is an apt description and summary of modern Africa: i.e. not at all

[up][up]The Terror was bloody and cruel, but not random. It was a political Purge. Wasn't the first of its kind, wouldn't be the last.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:10:05 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#130537: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:09:42 PM

I noticed, that the French Revolution is regarded less highly in America and Britain than it is in France itself, Switzerland or Germany. The latter were affected by it more and profited from it in one way or another.

Then there's the Double Standard of condemning the French Rebolution's humanitarian cost, but not doing so with the American Revolution.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#130538: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:10:22 PM

[up]The American Revolution, while ugly, didn't involve Madame la Guillotine.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#130539: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:10:40 PM

We never hear about that one at all.

[down]Let's hope it's bloodless.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:13:53 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#130540: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:13:09 PM

Only somewhat related but this talk of revolutions and so on makes it a bit more related. There's a military coup going on in Turkey right now.

I've got to wonder what this'll look like in the news and how the candidates will react.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:14:15 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#130541: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:15:52 PM

In the interest of fairness, we had tarring and feathering of loyalists, which was a whole lot more messy and painful than the guillotine (though mostly just mobs acting on their own as far as I know). But we didn't have a violent internal counter-revolution.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:16:49 PM by Elle

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#130542: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:17:19 PM

[up]Not as state policy, which is an important difference. And I say that as someone who thinks the American revolution was in and of itself pretty unjustified.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:17:40 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#130543: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:17:30 PM

A lot of loyalists fled to British North America though, and some of them were driven out (or feared retribution).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#130544: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:20:46 PM

When you have a revolution, the costs are worth it, when others do it, they're not.

[down]That is my point.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:23:44 PM by Antiteilchen

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#130545: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:22:14 PM

[up] Yeah, I am a bit tired of the double standards too.

...Unless you're making another point.

Shadow?
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#130546: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:23:54 PM

With all its good and bad, the French Revolution happened in A) Europe, and B) one of Europe's Great Powers. Anything France did was going to affect the rest of the world's leading powers and result in a response. 13 little colonies across the Atlantic rebel? Meh, the only thing resulting from that as far as Europe was concerned was they got to give Britain a black eye. Revolution in France? That's a direct challenge to the status quo occurring right at your doorstep.

More people were killed in the Reign of Terror that Continental soldiers were killed all eight years of the American Revolutionary War. To Europe and the world that was being controlled by Europe at the time, of course one takes precedence over the other.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#130547: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:25:27 PM

Did I say or imply the shady things we did were condoned or justified? (And I'm not even touching the things that were considered in line with the laws and customs of war in the period.)

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#130548: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:25:33 PM

[up][up] The same could be said of the War Of 1812 and the Napoleonic Wars. 1812 was just a not-so-major theatre of operations. Most of the British Army and Royal Navy were arranged against Napoleon.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:26:44 PM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#130549: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:28:07 PM

Re- The Onion link, you know things have gone crazy when The Onion is issuing a "Not Making This Up" Disclaimer.

OblongReality Unwanted Anachronism. Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Unwanted Anachronism.
#130550: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:28:38 PM

@Handle

You honestly are unaware of the mobs of civilians randomly hurting and harming others for perceived slights or threats in the French Revolution? Because if you are not unaware of it, then you're being dishonest in your statements.


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