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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
And...? I like how you suggest I'm claiming to be from a similar background as if I might be lying about it. Look around the site. I've said all this stuff about myself before. Not to mention that this site is like crack to people on the spectrum.
It is a sad reality that some people are going to get offended no matter how you phrase things, and there are only so many ways that things can be explained to a person. Now the person in question has been banned—and has made it clear via PM they are never coming back—so I'm not seeing much purpose in continuing to discuss this. You want to set up a thread to discuss how to talk about subjects like this, go right ahead.
Also, will Bernie's endorsement of Hillary actually change much? It seems like a lot of his more rabid supporters have ditched them both, while all the others were already switching over to Hillary.
The hardcore Sanders supporters are mostly made up of people who probably wouldn't vote anyway. It's down to less than eight percent. His endorsement doesn't necessarily mean much therefore in and of itself—though if he's going to go out and campaign for her that's great; it's always good to have another surrogate, and a former rival can make for a very good one if the cards are played right.
As for Trump, I expect there will be a spike and then things will even out.
edited 15th Jul '16 10:17:08 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
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I think it's pretty unlikely that Pence will help Trump much, if at all. Bernie's explicit endorsement of Hillary is also unlikely to sway many minds, but for a different reason: most people who were persuadable in this sense already support her.
Enough of this. Don't make me thump you too, Ambar.
edited 15th Jul '16 10:16:17 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I expect Pence will help Trump over the next week or so. Some of the Republican conservatives who are jumpy about Trump's lack of Christian credentials or actual political experience my become more enthusiastic about him, and get behind the ticket more strongly. In the end though it'll just hurt him even more with the gay crowd than it already is.
edited 15th Jul '16 10:18:43 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
edited 15th Jul '16 10:18:48 AM by sgamer82
Smokey said this had nothing to do with American politics, but I disagree; it has everything to do, in my eyes with what could become the future of American politics if steps to address the issue are not taken; there is, in my view, a growing aversion to collectivism in the eyes of many young Americans, in many cases among people who have views that are otherwise distinctly left leaning. Because the social justice movement, like the conventional left, is heavily collectivist in its mindset, many people with perfectly reasonableness progressive views find themselves as strange bedfellows with the alt-right, and other reactionary groups. This is quite visible in any online "discussion" of feminism; of those opposed, there is clearly a split between the bigotry spewing alt-right and anti-collectivist left insisting people have no control over the actions of others.
@Kostya
It'll ensure that more of them come out to vote. Pence being picked makes Trump not just a blustering buffoon but an actual threat to the civil rights of the gay community. I expect that those who were less than enthused about Clinton, or considering staying home simply because "I work that day" or what have you, will be more than happy to come out to vote against Pence.
edited 15th Jul '16 10:22:43 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
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That applies to the millenial left, in a sense. The millenial right....Well look at the shitposting on any youtube video related to feminism and pick out the people who don't seem to be raging bigots but still have bizarre views on social justice activism. What concerns me is that such sentiments, which are not all that disimilar to early fascism, will crystallize into something far more dangerous.
edited 15th Jul '16 10:43:36 AM by CaptainCapsase
This was a few pages back but I just wanted to correct this, because I see it all the time: the "academic" or "sociological" definition of racism isn't power+prejudice. I don't know where it came from – presumably someone in the social justice community made it up and it spread – but it isn't true.
edited 15th Jul '16 10:54:12 AM by majoraoftime

Question: will Trump's VP pick result in a spike in his favorability in polls? I'm assuming yes.
Also, will Bernie's endorsement of Hillary actually change much? It seems like a lot of his more rabid supporters have ditched them both, while all the others were already switching over to Hillary.