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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#129976: Jul 13th 2016 at 8:39:19 AM

[up][up] It's a very small and vocal minority that feels betrayed. Most people knew this was coming, even if they wished it didn't have to happen.

edited 13th Jul '16 8:39:54 AM by CaptainCapsase

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129977: Jul 13th 2016 at 8:43:10 AM

[up][up][up]I think a fair chunk of the later would be fine voting for Sanders if he won but started getting more critical when there seemed a threat he wouldn't concede or might be flirting with 3rd party plans, not least because it was one of the scenarios that could hand Trump the election.

[up][up]Trump is not a normal Republican. Nothing about the Republican party is normal right now.

edited 13th Jul '16 8:44:58 AM by Elle

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#129978: Jul 13th 2016 at 8:50:50 AM

Also, there is no such thing as a "see saw" unless you cherry pick the time periods to make history conform to your preconceived opinion. Also, the number of presidential elections in the US is not large enough for dependable statistical analysis.

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#129979: Jul 13th 2016 at 8:56:19 AM

WTH? Justice Ginsberg says what's we're all thinking, and the media is all 'ermagerd, what was she thinking when she said that?'

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#129980: Jul 13th 2016 at 9:13:34 AM

The Supreme Court is supposed to be above partisan polititcs. That Ginsberg came out so overtly against a particular political candidate is seen as very unseemly thing for a Justice to do.

The fact that the Supreme Court is already a very politicized entity is seen as besides the point.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129981: Jul 13th 2016 at 9:20:16 AM

[up] This, but now is not the time for the Dems to cling to political correctness where Trump is concerned.and I've heard that RBG has a reputation for being outspoken anyway.

In a better world, rejection of Trump would be bipartisan.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#129982: Jul 13th 2016 at 9:20:36 AM

I don't think she should have said it, but I understand why she did.

I heard an interesting point that it might have been the Star of David tweet that got to her; she was born Jewish in 1933, and likely knows very well what someone like Donald Trump has in common with a certain someone.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129984: Jul 13th 2016 at 9:28:18 AM

Two Three seperate instances: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0da3a641190742669cc0d01b90cd57fa/ap-interview-ginsburg-reflects-big-cases-scalias-death and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/11/in-bashing-donald-trump-some-say-ruth-bader-ginsburg-just-crossed-a-very-important-line/

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says she doesn't want to think about the possibility of Donald Trump winning the White House, and she predicts the next president — "whoever she will be" — will have a few appointments to make to the Supreme Court.

In an interview Thursday in her court office, the 83-year-old justice and leader of the court's liberal wing said she presumes Democrat Hillary Clinton will be the next president. Asked what if Republican Donald Trump won instead, she said, "I don't want to think about that possibility, but if it should be, then everything is up for grabs."

“I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president,” Ginsburg told the Times' Adam Liptak. “For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”

"He has no consistency about him," she said. "He says whatever comes into his head at the moment. He really has an ego. ... How has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns? The press seems to be very gentle with him on that."

edited 13th Jul '16 9:31:45 AM by Elle

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#129986: Jul 13th 2016 at 9:57:33 AM

They are, the political climate is just that bipolar and toxic right now.

Oh really when?
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#129987: Jul 13th 2016 at 9:59:26 AM

"Sensible" ne signifie pas "Appropriate".

I'm no more down with her saying these things about a Presidential candidate that she may have to sit on a ruling over than I am Scalia's old rants about the various things he didn't agree with. She can very easily be called to recuse herself now in a Bush v Gore Part Deux.

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#129988: Jul 13th 2016 at 9:59:59 AM

I think a fair chunk of the later would be fine voting for Sanders if he won but started getting more critical when there seemed a threat he wouldn't concede or might be flirting with 3rd party plans, not least because it was one of the scenarios that could hand Trump the election.

This. A lot of the growing animosity towards Sanders was because he lost and refused to acknowledge he lost, and the fear of whether or not he would sabotage Clinton's chances at taking the Presidency from Trump.

With his concession and his endorsement for Clinton, Sanders has finally made clear that he has no intention of endangering her campaign, leaving Clinton's supporters to breathe a collective sigh of relief and go, "Come 'ere, you big lug."

That we didn't want him as our President doesn't mean we don't want him in the party. Now that we know he's not trying to piss on the cake, he's welcome to a slice of it.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129989: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:05:23 AM

I do think Sanders might have been holding out for some concessions to his base though given the timing of his concession following the announcement of the Clinton campaign picking up some of his points like tuition subsidy.

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#129990: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:14:52 AM

Why are we trying to pretend that the Court hasn't been politicized since its inception?

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#129991: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:17:38 AM

Just because it is doesn't make it acceptable. From either side.

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#129992: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:20:48 AM

Sanders has finally made clear that he has no intention of endangering her campaign,

Sanders made it clear a long time ago, the fact that a few people (on both sides) have engaged in will full blindness to this fact for so long is not his fault.

I'm glad that the paranoid fear mongering over Sanders causing Predisnet Trump has stopped, but let's not pretend it wasn't paranoid fear mongering.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129993: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:29:10 AM

He evaded a full concession for weeks after it was mathematically impossible for him to win, I can forgive people for getting worried.

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#129994: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:40:50 AM

I honestly don't care that the SCOTUS is politicized — everything is political. SCOTUS just gives liberals a golden opportunity to ram progressivism down the throat of an unwilling populace, dragging them into modernity, and I'm all for that.

As for Sanders, his concession was inevitable and anyone who expected different is delusional or, at the very least, of suspect political loyalty. He's a Democrat and he deeply despises everything Trump stands for. He's not going to sabotage the Left simply so that he can continue his little circlejerk. That's Jill Stein's thing.

edited 13th Jul '16 10:44:49 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#129995: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:51:39 AM

[up]IIRC, Sanders really only became a Democrat because running third party is political suicide. Same with Trump.

You are correct that he's smart enough not to give Trump the election.

edited 13th Jul '16 10:52:03 AM by Protagonist506

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#129996: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:52:42 AM

[up][up]He's not a democrat actually. Just closely aligned and allied with them

edited 13th Jul '16 10:52:54 AM by sgamer82

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129997: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:55:19 AM

Yeah, Sanders spent most of his career as an independent who caucused with the Dems, he only joined the party in 2015 and self-identifies as a democratic socialist.

edited 13th Jul '16 10:57:50 AM by Elle

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#129999: Jul 13th 2016 at 10:56:40 AM

Well, he's a Democrat now, and his endorsement shows he has some measure of party loyalty. I respect him more than Stein, at any rate.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#130000: Jul 13th 2016 at 11:04:33 AM

Even now, I believe he cares more about policy than party. He's achieved at least some of his stated original goal of swinging the Dems leftward and I expect he'll stay behind party lines for the rest of the election but after, who knows.


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