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#129701: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:28:21 AM

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#129702: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:30:29 AM

Yeah.

The flaw in the argument that getting angry and treating rapists like rapists, white supremacists like white supremacists, etc. is that it falls into the cult of centrism. The fallacious idea that there is always an acceptable middle ground, and that we should always work together to find it.

There isn't. Some ideas, worldviews, and cultural constructs just need to burn.

edited 12th Jul '16 8:30:59 AM by TobiasDrake

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#129703: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:33:26 AM

Anyone following the rally in New Hampshire? Seems Sanders is indeed endorsing.

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#129704: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:33:51 AM

It's easy to talk. Make idle threats, demand your way, etc. It's a narrative that gives a sense of power to disenfranchised folks. "You will accept my candidate, or I will throw this entire country into chaos. It's my way or the highway, baby! I hold the cards! I can damn the world on a whim!"

But when push comes to shove, far fewer people are actually petty enough to hand the nation to a deranged madman out of spite. They might talk it up because - for some reason - people still think that forceful threats will get results, but they don't actually want to pull the trigger. They're just talking out of desperation.

I'm reminded of a bratty child throwing a tantrum. "I'll hold my breath until I turn blue and die! And then you'll really be sorry! So there!"

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#129705: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:35:08 AM

That's more or less exactly what it is. An outraged emotional response issued out of desperation in the tenuous hope of winning a discussion that has already been lost. A tantrum.

And most people can't maintain a tantrum forever. Eventually they calm down, feel really self-conscious about how they behaved just then, and quietly shuffle off to never speak of it again.

I get that. I've wrestled with rage addiction throughout my life. I've thrown my share of tantrums, believe you me. And as long as they do it before November, no harm no foul.

edited 12th Jul '16 8:38:54 AM by TobiasDrake

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#129706: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:39:32 AM

Sanders just endorsed Clinton and made it clear that she won fair and square.

Awesome!

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...sigh. Goddammit.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#129707: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:40:50 AM

[up][up] And while there are some people who are apparently capable of maintaining rage focused on a single subject for years on end...I'm pretty sure that's a psychological issue. It's really not healthy.

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#129708: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:41:41 AM

Dare I ask what the comments are saying?

Oh really when?
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#129709: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:42:47 AM

I'm pretty sure I made some bets on this, can anyone remember who owes me what? tongue

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#129710: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:44:36 AM

Basically they called Bernie a sellout and that he made a deal with the devil with hashtags such as "Bernthe Revolution" and "Bern Him At The Stake"

....Yeah.

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#129711: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:48:01 AM

I'm pretty sure I also called that, they're turning on Sanders the same way they turned on Obama when he didn't instantly bring about a glorious hippie revolution.

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#129712: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:51:19 AM

Yep. It's the anti-establishment revolutionary fringe that thinks all we need to clean up Washington is a morally-pure candidate who will walk into the White House, turn on a fire hose, and wash out all the corruption, insider politics, and nefarious motives that are preventing Congressmen from immediately changing the laws into whatever these people think are clearly the only just laws that anyone could see if they weren't blinded by greed.

The group that doesn't really care to learn more about party politics, bipartisan voting, closed-door dealmaking, etc. because they look at these topics and all they see is, "Corruption, corruption, CORRUPTION!!!! All government is corruption!"

edited 12th Jul '16 8:52:48 AM by TobiasDrake

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#129713: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:51:31 AM

Yeah, their reaction was not a surprise. They have disenfranchised themselves, willfully. No sympathy.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#129714: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:53:18 AM

And this is why I was uncomfortable with the talk of a revolution. You attract the crazy fringe that way, which is never good.

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#129715: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:53:59 AM

Nine out of ten revolutionaries don't really want to fix the system and create a utopia for the people. They're just upset about the crown being on someone else's head.

Every now and then, you might find a gem who really does want to rob from the rich and give to the poor, but he usually gets drowned out by the crowd that wants a period after "rich".

edited 12th Jul '16 8:55:58 AM by TobiasDrake

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#129716: Jul 12th 2016 at 8:58:16 AM

For what I see there now with Trump,Sanders and many is this tendecy of public who want SOMETHING being made NOW, not surprising Trumo promise sound like downright miracles or magic a this point

"I wil make elected, them I will made Wall apear and take all muslim and throw them away!" I call that the "infantilization"(made and write wrong but fuck it) of politics where everything is reduce to "but I make me feel better" kind of thing

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#129717: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:00:09 AM

They really should be investing in John Oliver's waffle iron plan if that's all they want.

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#129718: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:01:26 AM

So there's been a very interesting poll of American youth by ethnic background done by the AP associated Black Youth Project in regards to how young Americans of different ethnic backgrounds view the current presidential race and the primaries.

Among other indications of a massive generational gap between millenials and earlier generations in terms of political leaning, Sanders' two biggest demographics were Asian and Hispanic millenisls, which favored him 69% to 21% and 71% to 24%. Non Hispanic whites and blacks respectively supported Sanders over Clinton 62 to 32 percent and 53 to 39 percent.

About 70 percent of millenials across demographics are dissatisfied with the choices for this election, which is unsurprising.

About 70% of millenials who voted in a primary did so in the democratic primary, with 41% having voted according to this poll.

Sanders' unfavorables were highest among white millenials (34% unfavorable vs less than 20% for all other demographics), though still much better than Clinton's, and not even in the same ballpark as Trump's, who has 69% unfavorability among white millenials (the low point) and 84% disapproval among all other millenial demographics.

Something big is happening. You saw similarly massive generational gaps in support for Brexit in favor of the EU, and similarly massive gaps among support for far right parties throughout Europe.

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#129719: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:02:21 AM

[up][up]but is MADE on US? nobody want a mexicam-made waffle you know?

edited 12th Jul '16 9:02:40 AM by unknowing

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#129720: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:05:42 AM

Clinton and Sanders are on first name basis on the trail.

This is...unsettling...in a good way.

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#129721: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:08:29 AM

I wonder how many millennials are going to vote for Trump for the same reason some folks voted for Brexit: because they think the government's a sham, the election is rigged, and/or their vote doesn't matter, so they're going to issue a protest vote for the deranged option that "obviously" won't succeed as a stern middle finger to the political system.

I mean, surely there has to be some radical fringe that thinks Trump's purpose in the election is to make it so that nobody is surprised when the Illuminati selects Clinton to be our new Overlord.

edited 12th Jul '16 9:10:02 AM by TobiasDrake

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#129722: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:10:46 AM

I'm pleasantly surprised(and I owe Silasw money). I was positive he would never endorse Clinton- instead just dropping out following a floor fight at the Convention.

I did worry to some exent about him running third party, but less so, especially because that recent thing with Jill Stein offering to let him be the nominee strongly suggested that she was worried about him doing what he did today and that offer was a Hail Mary attempt to stop it.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#129723: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:11:17 AM

[1] See if you can catch the joke.

:P

edited 12th Jul '16 9:13:23 AM by TacticalFox88

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#129724: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:12:12 AM

I can't catch the joke because it's on you. "No hotlinked images, please."

edited 12th Jul '16 9:12:40 AM by TobiasDrake

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#129725: Jul 12th 2016 at 9:13:38 AM

There. Fixed.

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