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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#129426: Jul 9th 2016 at 6:45:09 AM

So, a few days ago there was a shooting in NYC that didn't get nearly the attention the other recent ones have. According to the story told by the cop, an off-duty officer going home after his shift was involved in a road rage incident, attacked by another guy, and shot the guy after being hit several times.

Except now footage from a store's security camera shows that the moment the guy came over to the officer's car, he was shot without doing anything. Linking to Daily Mail only because it seems to be the site with easiest access to the footage

CCTV footage has emerged showing an off-duty cop shooting a black man in the chest and head seconds after a road rage fight breaks out.

Delrawn Small, 37, a father-of-two died after being shot by officer Wayne Isaacs on July 4 following a near-miss car accident in Brooklyn.

Witnesses had claimed that Small went over to Isaac's window and 'wailed on his face' before Isaac pulled out his service weapon and shot him, but new footage seems to counter this claim.

In the footage, obtained by the New York Post, Small can be seen climbing out of his car and walking toward Isaac, who is sitting in his car.

A split second after bending down to look in the window, Small stumbles backward, staggering across the road before collapsing between two parked vehicles.

Another car, sitting parallel to Isaac, speeds off across the junction while pedestrians on the sidewalk run up the street.

...

The footage directly contradicts an earlier account from the owner Touch of Glass, who said his CCTV cameras had captured something very different.

The business owner told the New York Post: 'The video shows the guy coming out of his f***ing car, running up to [the cop's] car, going in the driver's side window and just punching the s*** of this poor cop. Then all of a sudden you see sparks.'

He added that Small 'was wailing on [Isaacs'] face, like pow, pow! He was looking to knock this guy out, punching and punching. Maybe four punches. It was big haymakers.'

Police had put forward a similar account of events, though chief Bill Bratton had urged caution, saying it was too early to tell whether the shooting was justified.

However, construction worker Lloyd Banks, 43, told The Daily News: 'Delrawn and the cop's car almost hit each other. And Delrawn got out of the car and the cop just jumped out and started screaming.

'He just shot him right there on the street. Delrawn was unarmed. His wife and kids were still in the car. They saw everything.'

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#129427: Jul 9th 2016 at 6:47:15 AM

* Sigh *

Now I'm wondering when someone will try to blow up a Police car with an IED...

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#129428: Jul 9th 2016 at 7:04:10 AM

Man, I need to stay off FB.

So many closet racists. Good god.

edited 9th Jul '16 7:04:19 AM by TacticalFox88

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#129429: Jul 9th 2016 at 7:17:43 AM

Man, I need to stay off FB.

So many closet racists. Good god.

I've noticed that a lot of racists don't seem to actually believe in the existence of non-racists. They use "political correctness" to convince themselves that everyone else believes the same things they do, but simply aren't allowed to say it. So they imagine themselves to be a silent majority that's being oppressed by both minorities (who of course they also imagine to be racist) and political correctness itself. I mean, given the Trump campaign this isn't exactly a novel insight, but they seem to honestly think that by sounding the call to arms they'd get a huge racist majority on their side.

Which, well, hopefully the election will disprove, but I just find it fascinating how convinced they are that everyone else secretly agrees with them.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#129430: Jul 9th 2016 at 7:19:29 AM

I'm having Spanish RT in the background and they are painting a piss-poor portrait of President Obama. In short, and with quotes from 'representatives of the Black Community', "blacks in the US thought Obama would save them, but he was too friendly with the whites and did nothing for them, and stood aside as blacks were killed by police and did not do enough to relieve their oppression or live up to the HOPE he presented". "He should stop spending so much money around 'spreading democracy and freedom' when both are so badly needed in his own country: how about he spends a little less on his military and a little more on training his cops not to shoot blacks?"

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#129431: Jul 9th 2016 at 7:36:25 AM

[up][up][up],[up][up] The fact that a lot of racists spend all their time online that isn't on Stormfront, the chans or Reddit on social media doesn't help. Yes, the fact that a lot of Facebook pages claiming to be representative of chan boards that aren't /pol/ are actually being run by /pol/ posters (with all that implies) doesn't help.

[up]If they weren't trying to do anything else, I'd be expecting keys to a T-14 Armata...

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#129432: Jul 9th 2016 at 7:39:42 AM

His cops? These problems are all with local agencies. State and federal level police don't have these sorta issues.

Oh really when?
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#129433: Jul 9th 2016 at 8:15:51 AM

[up] Or, if they do, it's nowhere near the same extent.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#129434: Jul 9th 2016 at 8:26:41 AM

Justice Ginsberg has all but said that she will be replaced by the next president.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-donald-trump/index.html

Yeah, the US is fucked beyond repair if Trump pulls off a win.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#129435: Jul 9th 2016 at 8:45:42 AM

Yup, a Trump win would give the court a conservative majority to last for 20 years until Roberts and Alito got old enough to retire. You're probably seeing Ginsburg, Breyer, and Kennedy go in the next 8 years. Who knows what kind of damage a 7-2 conservative SC majority could do in that amount of time.

If i'm right and those three retire, along with the missing Scalia slot, it flips to a 30-year 6-3 liberal majority (assuming Thomas lasts the 8 years and we finally get another Republican president in 2025).

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#129436: Jul 9th 2016 at 8:58:59 AM

@RT: They are obviously indulging in Malicious Slander. Problem is, a lot of people buy what RT sells.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#129438: Jul 9th 2016 at 9:22:41 AM

Don't even joke about this. Besides being taboo, and for very good reason, the last thing we want is a Trump martyr.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#129439: Jul 9th 2016 at 9:23:31 AM

And that's what scares me about people willing to vote for Trump, out of some delusional idea that Clinton is the living embodiment of the devil.

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ThePest179 Since: Jul, 2015
#129440: Jul 9th 2016 at 10:12:56 AM

FF Shinra: "Another attack on cops in Missouri, this one during a traffic stop. What the fuck is up with this week?"

Bonsai Forrest: "Now some dumbass is shooting random people in cars because he's angry about police shootings. I'd like to see Obama scream "THIS ISN'T HELPING YOUR CAUSE YOU MORONS!" It would deflect a lot of criticism of him from racists, and maybe even get some people to listen."

It's the copycat effect. When attacks like the one in Dallas occur, it tends to motivate like minded people. After the Columbine shootings, another school shooting occurred only eight days later. Or to use a more recent example, a day after the Orlando nightclub shooting, a man stabbed two police officers to death in France.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#129441: Jul 9th 2016 at 10:18:17 AM

So, Hillary and Sanders collaborated on a Health Care Plan today.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2016/07/09/hillary-clintons-commitment-universal-quality-affordable-health-care-for-everyone-in-america/

I'll be fucking damned if that shit didn't have me giddy. Reasonable, nuanced,not all that unrealistic, and

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/sanders-praises-clinton-health-care-plan-225328

Sanders is playing ball.

I NEEDED this news after the shitty two days.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#129442: Jul 9th 2016 at 10:29:34 AM

Will you then drop your vendetta on the Sandman?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#129443: Jul 9th 2016 at 10:33:15 AM

I'll still criticize him if he acts unreasonable, but, baby steps. I'm liking what he's doing so far.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#129445: Jul 9th 2016 at 11:25:14 AM

Dallas sniper profile: Micah Johnson was sent home from Afghanistan: Man who shot and killed five police officers was accused of sexual harassment by female soldier in 2014

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#129446: Jul 9th 2016 at 11:53:09 AM

A wee follow up on that bit I mentioned earlier about the NC police office that told its employees to avoid BLM supporters- apparently one of their officers has now been suspended for sending death threats to local BLM members via twitter and facebook.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#129447: Jul 9th 2016 at 2:45:42 PM

The government of the Bahamas has issued a traveling warning for its citizens, particularly young men, regarding the recent police shootings.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/bahamas-issues-rare-u-s-travel-advisory-after-shootings-1.2980132

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#129448: Jul 9th 2016 at 2:51:48 PM

I think it's pretty clear at this point that Sanders was staying in the race 1) in order to ensure that the Democrats still had a viable candidate if Clinton was indicted; and 2) in order to push Clinton towards more progressive policy positions. The former was a reasonable contingency, and the latter seems to be succeeding to at least some degree, so I'd say he made the right call.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#129449: Jul 9th 2016 at 3:09:08 PM

Even if he had dropped out the DNC would probably have chosen him as the candidate in the event of an indictment.

Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#129450: Jul 9th 2016 at 3:24:14 PM

I'm actually really glad that didn't happen. It would have been great if Sanders won, but being picked as a default choice isn't really winning and could have damaged the morale of the party. Having that happen to either Clinton or Sanders would have given Trump one hell of a line of attack, and we shouldn't be remotely confidant enough to give that guy any advantages.

edited 9th Jul '16 3:25:09 PM by Artificius

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