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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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I'm sure that true for many thing, I'm just saying the blanket "Democrats conservative everywhere on everything" is stupid. Because it is. Like I said, no one ever bothers to support this when talking about a specific issue, they just state it as a fact that somehow needs no support. That's the part I get more annoyed with than the claim itself.
edited 8th Jul '16 10:37:11 AM by LSBK
The whole Native American thing has to do with the double-meaning of the world "America". The Native Americans were native to the geographical region known as North and South America, but when you say things like "Real American" that's usually referring to the United States, which is not a geographical region but a cultural and political hegemony. The Native Americans tribes were initially a separate political entity from the US (the tribes would count as foreign nations).
On the topic of American rightism: I would call the Democrats economically centrist with slight left-leanings, but they are still leftist on social issues and what-have-you (for example, they're the pro-choice feminist party). At this point, the Republicans are across the right-spectrum, but mostly center-right to far-right.
My evidence for the Republicans not necessarily being far-right would be that one political test says that I have strong Republican leanings while a political compass puts me at only center-right.
Leviticus 19:34More about the Dallas attack:
The attack ended hours later when police used a robot carrying a bomb to kill the shooter, the Dallas police chief said.
The Thursday night killings, at the end of a protest over this week's pair of fatal shootings of black men by police in Louisiana and Minnesota, fueled a national debate over excessive police force. The overnight attack raised fears that others would seek to retaliate against police.
Authorities said that the gunman fired at least some of the shots in the attack but have not ruled out that other shooters were involved.
A U.S. government source told Reuters the shooter was identified as Micah X. Johnson, a member of the U.S. Army Reserve.
"He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. said Brown, who is black. "The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers."
Brown declined to say how many people took part in the attack. "We're going to keep these suspects guessing," he told reporters at City Hall.
Police said they were questioning two occupants of a Mercedes they had pulled over after seeing a man throwing a camouflage bag inside the back of the vehicle, which then sped off on a downtown street. A woman was also taken into custody near the garage where the standoff took place.
Reverend Jeff Hood, an organizer of Thursday night's protest in Dallas, said he had been chatting with some of the police officers on the street when gunfire erupted.
"Immediately, when I heard the shots, I looked up and I saw what I believe were two police officers that went down. I didn't know what to do," Hood told reporters on Friday. "If we continue to turn to violence, we are going to continue to see heartache and devastation."
A Twitter account describing itself as representing the Black Lives Matter movement sent the message: "Black Lives Matter advocates dignity, justice and freedom. Not murder."
One of the dead officers was identified as Brent Thompson, 43. He was the first officer killed in the line of duty since Dallas Area Rapid Transit formed a police department in 1989, DART said on its website. Thompson joined DART in 2009.
Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings told CBS News the people in custody, including one woman, were "not being cooperative" with police investigators. He said the assailant who was dead was being fingerprinted and his identity checked with federal authorities.
There was no sign of international links to the attacks, U.S. officials said on Friday.
Experts on extremist groups said such attacks are not necessarily carried out by an organization and are often the work of individuals. Black groups have not been linked to any recent violent attacks in the United States, they said.
Just a change of pace from all the shooting and murder:
Judge sentences former Alabama House speaker ethics case: http://bigstory.ap.org/95af246796d84daeaa0aef39c4c62df0&utm_source=android_app&utm_medium=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=share
There's no such thing as a "Real American". The Native tribes have a hardier claim to the title than anyone else, but if you're talking about American as in "The United States of", there are no "real" Americans. The very concept is antithetical to what America proudly boasts that it's supposed to be. The entire concept of "real Americans" is symptomatic of the conflict in which we like saying that we're the land of freedom and democracy where everyone is equal, but then we turn around and want some people to be more equal than others.
That's on the Statue of Liberty. We display it prominently as a symbol of what it means to be an American. Nowhere in that poem does it say, "So I can shoot the f*ckers for being brown in my country."
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Yep. The United States of America was conceived as a country where people of all colors, creeds, genders, nationalities, etc., can come and call themselves "Americans".
The sad fact is that we haven't done a very good job of living up to that ideal, starting with our treatment of the Native Americans themselves. But we do at least try. When we give up trying, we give up on the idea of America.
edited 8th Jul '16 11:53:43 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'm not saying the "True Americans" claim by Goldengatewhateverhisnameis is accurate-I'm simply saying that being American is not based on ethnicity or geography, and claiming that natives are the "truest" U Sians is inaccurate because they initially belonged to different nations than the US itself-even the Native Americans are the descendants of immigrants. White people are also immigrants or descendants of immigrants, too and claiming that they're the only true Americans is equally stupid if not more so.
edited 8th Jul '16 12:03:24 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34Very technically, everyone, everywhere is an descendant of immigrants at some point in time when humans first migrated to those areas. But we generally recognize the right of "first claim" — that is, if you're the first one there, you are considered the owner when someone else wants to move in. Unless those people have the strength (or the communicable diseases) to wipe you out, that is.
edited 8th Jul '16 12:04:41 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Many police are former soldiers and also rely on the military for hand-me-down equipment. One ex-soldier killing cops probably won't effect their relationship. In fact, I seriously doubt this is the first time an ex-soldier killed police, even in recent history.
edited 8th Jul '16 12:19:38 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34I doubt it'll make a difference.
More on one of the two (?) civilians injured by the sniper at Dallas
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Many of the Oath Keepers are ex-military too.
There's a lot of overlap in soldiers leaving the military but still wanting to serve their country and thus becoming cops. There's also a lot of overlap in soldiers leaving the military but still wanting to uphold their country's ideals and thus becoming vigilantes, joining scary militia groups, or otherwise employing gun violence over some ideal or another.
Any cause that relies on the use of force must attract those people skilled in the use of force to excel.
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IIRC, the Oathkeepers are all ex-military. Their ideology is something along the lines of "we took an oath to protect the constitution and American values when we joined the US. Currently, the US government has moved away from what we perceive to constitutional or in-line with what we consider American. Ergo-the best and only way to keep our Oaths is to become Right Wing Militia Fanatics". Mind you, most of their ideology is nuts for various reasons but that's more or less how they see things.
Yes, I've seen a proud member of the Oathkeepers proudly brag how he would've shot a suspected cop killer and nobody would ever know. Proudly upholding that Constitution, except for a few parts of the Bill of Rights you find inconvenient.
I've also read enough insider material from their meetings to know they're basically nuts
I wonder how many of these militant fanatics would be defused by having better systems in place for the treatment of our veterans after they leave the military.
One of the problems in the country that everyone knows about but rarely sees focus is that we're honing people into exceptionally skilled, finely-tuned killing machines and then just sorta dumping them in alleyways and stuff when we're done with them. "Thank you for your service, enjoy your incredible murder-skills, now go f*ck yourself."
And so now we have legions of bitter, disenfranchised people whose best skill is violence. Small wonder we're having this problem.
edited 8th Jul '16 12:36:47 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Now some dumbass is shooting random people in cars because he's angry about police shootings.
I'd like to see Obama scream "THIS ISN'T HELPING YOUR CAUSE YOU MORONS!" It would deflect a lot of criticism of him from racists, and maybe even get some people to listen.
Goldengateblonde (or whatever her handle is) was making *fun* of Joe Walsh, who's the guy who said that, btw.
In Walsh's context, i think he was employing it in the same manner as "Silent Majority," the idea being that BLM represents a radical fringe and that the police-loving American mainstream has tolerated them thus far, but no longer. In this case it's not explicitly race-based, it's about pitting average joes against angry ivory-tower leftists, "thugs," and professional agitators.
One thing that Republicans have always been fine with is denying guns to blacks, so...
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edited 8th Jul '16 10:34:44 AM by CaptainCapsase