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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129227: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:31:13 PM

It doesn't matter if it's believed (it is, after all, the National Enquirer, a tabloid few sane people take seriously), it's helping to spread and advertise the meme. Repeat something often enough with enough conviction, and well, propaganda.

flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#129229: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:40:13 PM

Active shooter downtown Dallas. Two officers down. Police are asking drivers to run red lights to out of the area.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#129230: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:12:40 PM

But we need guns! It's not like there's a mass shooting every other week this year!

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#129231: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:41:29 PM

Now I'm hearing that 10 officers were shot with 3 of those killed. All by snipers.

I'm really hoping this is just the media beimg the media...

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#129232: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:43:52 PM

CNN is saying that the shootings were at a protest...this doesn't look good.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#129233: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:44:15 PM

Good christ it got a lot worse.

10 Dallas officers were shot (3 fatally) by at least two shooters who had an "elevated position" (e.g. rooftops, and so distinctly not part of the marching protesters). This sounds eerily similar to the shit that happened here in NY where a guy killed two firefighters using similar tactics.

Also, it sounds as though one of the shooters has been killed (exact wording was "neutralized"), while the other was negotiating with police, last I heard.

edited 7th Jul '16 8:50:25 PM by ironballs16

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129234: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:49:12 PM

It was a Black Lives Mater protest and the shooters were apparently singling out the transit cops.

It's really too early to say for sure it was politically charged, but it screams politically charged.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#129235: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:51:32 PM

Were the shooters black? Please tell me they weren't.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#129237: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:53:31 PM

If they were radicalized (for lack of a better word) BLM members/supporters, they also just shot their own cause.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129238: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:55:27 PM

Far as I can tell, no ID has been released yet though they have been apprehended.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#129239: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:56:24 PM

Dear god first the radical right is back, and now the radical left. It's like the 70's all over again.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#129240: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:59:11 PM

At least one of the suspects is believed to be black. Jesus Christ, all hell is going to break loose after this.

Also, the police chief is saying they have concerns that the shooters may have planted a bomb in the area.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#129241: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:59:50 PM

Ugh as justified as their anger may be I hope this doesn't lead to a revival of Black Nationalism and Separatism. I'm already seeing talk of it on places like Tumblr and Twitter, and that kind of tribalist self-enclosure is rarely the answer. Also seeing some talk about it being a False Flag Operation carried out by plants as well. Knowing the government's pisspoor history on managing racial tensions, it's not entirely impossible.

edited 7th Jul '16 9:02:36 PM by AlleyOop

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#129242: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:00:13 PM

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60's, mate.

Which makes it just feel like we're in a weird time loop where everything repeats itself.

edited 7th Jul '16 9:00:22 PM by AdricDePsycho

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#129243: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:01:38 PM

God, the vile people of the world were already calling BLM "terrorists." If that's really what this is about - and at this point, it seems very likely - then this is just going to give them something to point to and go "See? See?"

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#129244: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:02:44 PM

[up] The 70's were like the 60's on steroids with none of the optimism and all of the drugs. It wasn't only bad in the US, in fact I have yet to hear of a country that remembers the decade fondly.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
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#129245: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:04:52 PM

Even worse is that the Dallas Police were supportive of the protests. Recent events have shown that even some police officers and police departments are vocally wanting reform as well.

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#129246: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:05:30 PM

Trump is going to have a fucking field day with this.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#129247: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:06:19 PM

Reasonable voices will point out that one incident doesn't a "radical left" make, especially considering the other factors (racial tension, possible revenge for high profile incidents).

If we start seeing Y'all Queda style militias, then it's safe to call it a thing.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#129248: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:08:44 PM

[up][up]President Trump you mean.

This is terrible and not justifiable but yeah, this is terrible optics. People/the news coverage will forget about Alton Sterling and Philandro Castile and there will be way more hostility toward protesters And that's not even getting into how police officers are going to act.

The only "positive" is that there's so many of these protest without violence and even in this one, it was two gunmen from the roof, not the people engaging in the protest..

edited 7th Jul '16 9:09:03 PM by Hodor2

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#129249: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:09:34 PM

[up][up] Dude racial tension was a big part of the radical left already. Plus I'm sure plenty of people will defend these guys if they turn out to be some sort of Left Wing terror group, if only to avoid being seen a sympathetic to "the enemy", i.e cops. The same thing happens whenever the right does something like this by the way.

edited 7th Jul '16 9:14:23 PM by JackOLantern1337

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#129250: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:10:24 PM

[up][up] I'm surprised none of these people have tried to kill him yet.

edited 7th Jul '16 9:10:34 PM by Bat178


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