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#128926: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:12:30 PM

[up][up] Bah. Nobody who wasn't already on the fence is going to have their minds changed by this. We might see a one or two percent uptick in the "Bernie or Bust" polling, but it'll drop back within a month.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#128927: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:17:27 PM

[up][up] State Department computers were using XP while this was going on and supposedly barely ran it. They were in a desperate rush to upgrade when Microsoft stopped supporting XP last year. [1]

Some non-classified machines apparently still run it to this day.

[up] I hope so.

edited 5th Jul '16 4:24:37 PM by Memers

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#128928: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:20:20 PM

@Tobias: Considering how many people already hate his guts and the quasi-assassination attempts, I'd say that the class action lawsuit is just icing on top of the cake for Trump.

Hopefully he doesn't actually get assassinated, speaking of which. Nothing would legitimize his agenda more than that.

edited 5th Jul '16 4:21:06 PM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#128929: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:24:34 PM

Dr. Femme ‏@Ph D_femme 9m9 minutes ago

@Sopan Deb what do you call a gang of trump supporters? A Tantrum. A Tantrum of Trumplings.

Can we make this a thing? I'm pretty sure this should be a thing

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#128930: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:26:21 PM

A few Sanders supporters are also flipping their lids over this.

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#128931: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:29:54 PM

@Memers: Actually, you cannot fault the State Department for being on XP for that long or for still having some XP Machines to this day... Many businesses were using XP machines back then, and there are some programs that run on XP which won't run on 7. What you've described is actually perfectly reasonable for the typical business with their computing systems.

edited 5th Jul '16 4:35:01 PM by GameGuruGG

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#128932: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:31:53 PM

And upgrades aren't free. And good luck getting that from Congress.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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#128933: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:33:17 PM

No because the crime there is a serious one (rape) instead of non-serious (using a common workaround used by multiple previous Secretaries of State for reasons of practicality). Here let's try another version, should a black jaywalker be prosecuted even though all the white ones are being let off because it's not a serious crime?
I would say yes. Why have a law for it otherwise? The problem again, would be the non-prosecution of the white jaywalkers. If you don't want anyone to get prosecuted, remove the law entirely. The law in question would be a complete farce anyway.

Now, if the law is good or bad, is a different question. I get what you mean and I don't think Clinton should be prosecuted. Just that the logic of "everyone is doing it" isn't sound. The defence here, should be that of practicality. The why everyone else was doing it, not the tu quoque that others were doing it.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#128934: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:38:09 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah but that is the problem, it's the freaken highest levels of the government and they are stuck using outdated and slow technology. To the point where the phone in your pocket does everything it does but better and faster, they got a country to run and should have at least something current or optimized for speed.

[up][up] That is my point.

edited 5th Jul '16 4:38:58 PM by Memers

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#128935: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:41:31 PM

"And upgrades aren't free. And good luck getting that from Congress."

CUTTING CORNERS ON THE STATE DEPARTMENT? ARE CONGRESS INSANE?

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#128936: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:42:54 PM

A few Sanders supporters are also flipping their lids over this.

Anyone important or just the same idiots who keep insisting that Sander's should run third party even though he himself has said he's voting for Clinton?

I would say yes. Why have a law for it otherwise?

For when it is a serious crime. My black jaywalker white jaywalker analogy kinda falls apart here so I'm going to have to re tool it.

We have the jaywalker who slowly walked across a busy highway/motorway and seriously endangered traffic, we also have the jaywalker who when no cars were around nipped across the single lane road instead of going all the way to the crossing. Both technically commited the crime of jaywalking, but generally only the ones who did the super stupid and dangerous version is going to get prosecuted for it.

We keep the law so we can do people for dangerous jaywalking, but we haven't prosecuted people for single lane safe jaywalking because it would make nos else to do so, so why should we start now?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#128937: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:50:55 PM

The defence here, should be that of practicality. The why everyone else was doing it, not the tu quoque that others were doing it.

If it's about practicality it stays the same, because prosecuting everyone who jaywalks is incredibly impractical.

Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
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#128938: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:52:08 PM

[up][up]Again, I agree that she shouldn't be prosecuted. I was merely objecting to the logic of "everyone else does it". I understand what you want to say and agree.

[up]That's still not an argument against a single Jaywalker. Otherwise everyone could bring up that defence.

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#128939: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:55:07 PM

Everyone who jaywalked like Clinton sure, and they'd have a solid argument for it. But folks who jaywalked differently wouldn't be able to sue that argument.

[up] I figured you understood already, but I like to spell things out for the lurkers.

edited 5th Jul '16 4:55:46 PM by Silasw

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#128940: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:58:13 PM

Quck, someone write "Jaywalk like Clinton" to the tune of Moves like Jagger?

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#128941: Jul 5th 2016 at 5:15:05 PM

[up]I was thinking more Walk Like an Egyptian instead...

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#128942: Jul 5th 2016 at 6:21:10 PM

@ Memers: Don't worry. A capable candidate would have used the "careless" characterization of Clinton to attack her. Trump's already gone full conspiracy.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#128943: Jul 5th 2016 at 6:24:59 PM

Oh, I don't think anyone brought it up here, but Trump's campaign is claiming the star of david in their attack ad was meant to be a "sheriff's star".

It's... Not really believable. At all.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#128944: Jul 5th 2016 at 6:33:58 PM

So, Trump in a moment of brilliance...in an effort to attack Hillary actually praised Saddam Hussein.

I can't with this guy. He was given a golden ticks and threw it away because he's so thin skinned

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#128945: Jul 5th 2016 at 6:36:53 PM

[up][up]Of course it's not. Their just doing anything they can to cover their asses after retweeting an explicit racist. Again. And "they're trying to make me look bad!" is the only excuse his supporters need anyways.

It's all very telling when the Republican leaders want to him to clean up his act, but otherwise have absolutely no problem supporting him. Because looking like a racist is obviously the problem here.

edited 5th Jul '16 6:46:51 PM by Eschaton

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#128946: Jul 5th 2016 at 7:34:11 PM

The Trump story

Trump praises for Saddam Hussein's efficient killing of 'terrorists,' calls today's Iraq 'Harvard for terrorism'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/donald-trump-saddam-hussein-iraq-terrorism/

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#128947: Jul 5th 2016 at 7:47:38 PM

[up] Praising the guy they went into Iraq the first time specifically to kill, then calling Iraq "Harvard for terrorism" when they caused this whole mess by going into Iraq the second time under another Republican...

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#128948: Jul 5th 2016 at 7:53:26 PM

[up]I know. My poor, abused frontal lobes... they pound. More than usual, I mean. >_<

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#128949: Jul 5th 2016 at 8:14:42 PM

It's shit like this that almost makes one think Trump could be a plant.

CUTTING CORNERS ON THE STATE DEPARTMENT? ARE CONGRESS INSANE?
Yes.

The Republicans in Congress and their party elites generally want to "Starve the beast" and privatize as much of the government as possible by showing it can't work as a public entity. :^)

edited 5th Jul '16 8:16:17 PM by PotatoesRock

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#128950: Jul 5th 2016 at 8:24:38 PM

You can't privatise foreign policy!

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