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940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#128776: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:29:15 PM

Are you sure the links working?

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#128777: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:41:22 PM

Trump better pick good ol' Moon Unit. Because that joke will absolutely never get tiring to me.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#128778: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:44:20 PM

I feel like Clinton would be licking her chops at the idea of facing off with Gingrich again. I mean, he'd give Warren/Kaine/Booker/whoever a bit of a run for their money, but if things get too hairy they could whip out the cheated-on-his-dying-wife card.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#128779: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:51:35 PM

Even with Trump at the helm, I don't see how Gingrich could pass any VP vetting test.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#128780: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:53:16 PM

Well, his two main options are Gingrich and Christie (the latter of whom was vetted by Romney's team, who were absolutely appalled by the skeletons in his closet).

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#128781: Jul 4th 2016 at 9:00:03 PM

And Newt is had to replace his closet with a crypt. The only advantage I can see is that he's been out of the main spotlight for close to 20 years now.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#128782: Jul 4th 2016 at 9:02:17 PM

I'm just saying that his main options are Christie, Gingrich, Sessions (a man who was declared too racist to be a judge in Alabama), Pence (the guy who compared gay marriage to 9/11), and a few rising stars like Cotton or Ernst who wouldn't be caught dead hopping aboard the Trump Train.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#128783: Jul 4th 2016 at 9:04:04 PM

Eh, just another front for the Dems to open up.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#128784: Jul 4th 2016 at 9:05:18 PM

Speaking of Dems, I am hoping that she picks Warren, though I admit that that is for purely selfish reasons-my little liberal heart would be set aflutter.

If it's someone like Ernst, Kaine would be a smarter counterpick. If it's Sessions, pick Booker just to see what happens at the debates.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#128785: Jul 4th 2016 at 10:12:16 PM

Warren would be nice, but there's the whole "Democratic Senator/Republican Governor" issue.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#128786: Jul 4th 2016 at 10:26:10 PM

Clinton's VP needs to be someone relatively young; the democrats are critically low on big names young enough to be running for the Presidency in future cycles.

edited 4th Jul '16 10:28:51 PM by CaptainCapsase

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#128787: Jul 5th 2016 at 3:37:56 AM

They risk a Labour situation?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#128788: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:44:54 AM

Not quite the same thing. The problem is more that Democrats have a really weak downticket game and a lot of trouble winning elections at the local and state level, which means that they won't have much established talent for the Presidential elections in 2024 and beyond. Part of why we were making smartass comments about Hillary back in 2015 was because, as early as 2010, it looked like there wasn't anyone else in the Democratic Party who had the visibility to hit the Presidential track. (It must be noted that Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat, and his candidacy was a very dark horse indeed - albeit a good one for the party in the end.)

Labour's problem is that their entire leadership is in rebellion and they're having to raise new shadow ministers from scratch. By the time Corbyn dies, though, either they'll have experienced leadership, or the whole point will be moot because the Blairites will take back power.

edited 5th Jul '16 4:46:41 AM by Ramidel

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Lost in Space
#128789: Jul 5th 2016 at 4:55:26 AM

Regarding that video from the last page: who knew John Cena was such a mensch? I have no love at all for pro wrestling, but now I know that at least one wrestler hasn't let the steroids go to his brain.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#128790: Jul 5th 2016 at 5:39:25 AM

Trump's VP is realistically going to come from one of two groups: hucksters like him who just want to hype their brand, and people whose political careers are already over so they might as well try a moonshot.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#128792: Jul 5th 2016 at 6:46:44 AM

I saw that. It's like Ryan saw Boehner's tenure as speaker, saw how weak, ineffective and terrible it was, smiled sagely and went "I can top that."

Also, FBI director Comey is issuing a statement at 11:00. I think I have a feeling we may need to stage an intervention for HA Goodman soon.

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Lost in Space
#128793: Jul 5th 2016 at 7:20:05 AM

[up] It's not just about becoming Boehner 2.0 — that was inevitable for anyone who took that particular gavel who wasn't a full-on Tea Party nutbag.

No, Ryan has, for years, been held out (wrongly) by the Beltway media as a "serious, responsible policy guy" — a brainiac whom the Republican Party turns to for sensible ideas amid the raging storm. The problem is that this image is an outright fabrication: Ryan has never offered any ideas that are better than retreads of stuff that failed a long time ago, usually with some extra mumbo jumbo and magic asterisks thrown in.

As an idea man, he's a complete washout, but try telling that to the media.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#128794: Jul 5th 2016 at 7:31:30 AM

Regarding that video from the last page: who knew John Cena was such a mensch? I have no love at all for pro wrestling, but now I know that at least one wrestler hasn't let the steroids go to his brain.

It's sort of a novel place to be finding progressive sentiment, isn't it?

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#128795: Jul 5th 2016 at 7:45:24 AM

No love for wrestling here either, but....bravo, Mr. Cena.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#128796: Jul 5th 2016 at 8:17:59 AM

Well, unsurprisingly, the FBI isn't recommending indictment. I was briefly wondering whether the FBI director would be tempted to play kingmaker after Lynch agreed to abide by his recommendation, but it looks like he's sufficiently professional to be above that, or at least not confident that the GOP would win in November even if he pulled that.

edited 5th Jul '16 8:19:27 AM by CaptainCapsase

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Lost in Space
#128797: Jul 5th 2016 at 8:21:52 AM

I suppose it's always possible, in some world where things are not all run by shadowy conspiracies, that there simply isn't enough evidence of wrongdoing to justify a criminal indictment...

Which is not to say that I might be totally above politics in such a position — were I the FBI director and tasked with making a judgment call that might hand the country to Donald Trump, I would find it hard to remain unbiased.

edited 5th Jul '16 8:23:25 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#128798: Jul 5th 2016 at 8:24:35 AM

Some people will freak out about this (and seriously, can someone check on HA Goodman?) Others will be disinclined to believe not being indicted when available evidence is insufficient to show you actually committed a crime is evidence of horrible corruption and the death of Democracy.

edited 5th Jul '16 8:24:58 AM by Lightysnake

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#128799: Jul 5th 2016 at 8:24:45 AM

The story itself, for the sake of citation:

FBI says it won't recommend charges in Clinton email matter: http://bigstory.ap.org/f9d071a7d1f5401696d825d46c34e4ff&utm_source=android_app&utm_medium=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=share

"FBI ending Clinton email probe, referring for prosecutorial decision: director" - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZL1US

edited 5th Jul '16 8:30:21 AM by sgamer82

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#128800: Jul 5th 2016 at 8:27:28 AM

[up][up]Keep in mind that the wrestlers you see on the screen are characters, not necessarily the actual people who play them. I'm pretty sure that Cena was speaking as himself, although IIRC his character is a Face.

Trump delenda est

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