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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
But the door opened by this SCOTUS decision is a world in which police could set up checkpoints where every person has to stop and be checked for outstanding warrants, something that is antithetical to our principles.
Your faith in the righteousness of the common man over the elite is deeply misplaced — which is not to say that the converse is also true: there is nothing inherent to one's class or station that grants one special access to truth or wisdom. Technocrats live in epistemic closure; dictators fall into self-worship; the unwashed masses rise up and put everyone they don't like to the guillotine; representative governments turn into oligarchies; there is no end to how dumb people can be, and no magic answer.
edited 22nd Jun '16 9:33:56 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Keep in mind that whatever his personal motives he did pledge allegiance to ISIS in his final hours. Then again that could have also been part of the revenge plan, he would disgrace the Muslim community and his family, thus getting back at them for their mistreatment of him.
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.A Tennessee congressional candidate
has dispensed with the niceties and is openly campaigning as a white supremacist.
In addition to the points already raised, the officer stopped him in the first place because an anonymous tip was phoned in accusing him of illegal drugs. There was a reason for the stop beyond him just "looking suspicious". The chain of events is:
- Anonymous tip reported drug crime.
- Officer staked out the house.
- Officer stopped the reported individual.
- Officer ran his information and found an arrest warrant.
- Suspect arrested and searched.
- Drug paraphernalia was found during the search, validating the original tip.
Ultimately, the precedent this case sets is that police are allowed to investigate you if someone calls the police and says you're committing a crime. Which I'm pretty sure was already established.
edited 22nd Jun '16 9:55:37 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.@Fighteer: You bring up racism and slavery as examples, but in the latter case, the American Civil war was a crisis which originated more or less exclusively from the white southern aristocracy, in particular the military elite of the country, which were disproportionately of southern origin. Take them out of the picture (which requires an economy in the south that is not dependent on forced labor), and slavery is banned with little more than an easily suppressed riot here or there, much like it was in pretty much every other western nation. The same class formed the core of the KKK and similar groups which carried out a campaign of terror against blacks that continues to this day in a much diminished form.
The pertinent point is that virtually all of the "blatant stupidity" of the general public is either shared with (racism and so on) or originates from (climate change denial) sectors of the ruling class of society; neither is evil, but they are both (in aggregate) inherently self interested.* Which is why I insist continuous pressure from the masses is an integral part of the political process; without such pressure, the natural tendency of policymaking is to empower the ruling class to further exploit the working class, until such a point where the working class is fully subjugated, and power struggles between different sectors of the ruling class become the dominant force of social evolution.
* Self interest hear includes close relatives, friends, and people of (perceived) similar backgrounds.
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And the current state of things is problematic enough as it is.
edited 22nd Jun '16 10:25:13 AM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Some, he assumes, are good people.
House Democrats Stage Sit In Over Gun Legislation
. "Stage" being the appropriate word. While I agree with the intent and the substance of what they're doing, the style could use a bit of toning down.
edited 22nd Jun '16 11:11:53 AM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.Yeah if the opening stop was legitimate then everything would be fine, it's confusing because (for reasons I don't understand) it's apparently not okay to stop a guy seem coming out of a place that's been reported to be a drug den.
Thing is there's no actual indication that he was used for sex, we're going off a second hand news report of what an supposed ex boyfriend said to another network about what the killer's motive might have been. That's shaky as shit, we can maybe estimate that the killer felt he'd been used, but that may well have been a delusion of the killer's bought about by him suppressing his homosexuality.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran@
: Washington Post reports it's been rejected by Senate. I'd link article but I've reached my free reading limit (stupid paywalls).
edited 22nd Jun '16 12:24:26 PM by megarockman
The damned queen and the relentless knight.edited 22nd Jun '16 12:52:51 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

@Fighteer: I'm going to have to disagree with your assertion that the masses are blatantly stupid and that its the job of politicians to restrain that stupidity. The interplay between the upper and lower strata of society is not fundamentally different in a democracy than it is in nondemocratic systems; each class pursues its own interest, and in cases where the interests of the ruling class diverge from those of the working class, the ruling class will leverage their status in society (and their superior access to knowledge) to benefit themselves at the expense of the working class up until the point where the working class refuses to tolerate further oppression. The major innovation that democracy brings to the table is providing a mechanism for class warfare to occur without the "warfare" part becoming literal. The expectation of resistance from the working class is the main mechanism working against regression into more oppressive modes of government, and it is the same resistance that catalyzes almost all positive societal change.
edited 22nd Jun '16 9:03:24 AM by CaptainCapsase