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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Voters are not members of the Party.
And I don't think Hillary is a bad choice either, I voted for her.
edited 20th Jun '16 2:08:56 PM by flameboy21th
Non Indicative UsernameYeah it would only make sense if Bushmaster (as the seller of the gun) were obliged to determine if either she or anyone in her house were unfit to have access to a firearm, but I don't belive any country has that.
I think over here the police might be obliged to check that when issuing a licence, but that's A: an explicit thing they have to check, B: part of a licence requirement not a purchase requirement, C: an obligation for the police, not the gun seller.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran![]()
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...Are members of the Democratic Party somehow not apart of the general public now? Honestly, the fact that the places Sanders did best at seemed to be the most inaccessible for voters makes me question his popularity even more. Sure, he might have more enthusiastic supporters, but that doesn't necessarily translate to having more supporters.
edited 20th Jun '16 2:09:34 PM by LSBK
Look, how is Hillary just as left as Bernie? He sharply criticizes the large financial institutions; she gives promo speeches to them for large amounts of money. She supported the Iraq War; he doesn't. She's far more willing to ratchet up tensions with Iran, and more of a military interventionist generally. He supports free college and universal health care; does Hillary support either? He's willing to push for new taxes to fund his policies - is she? He's left of her on well-nigh every major issue.
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Voters like Hillary more because they like her policies more. And I don't think Sanders has a much better chance against Trump.
Really, Democrats don't really have to worry about losing the White House regardless of Clinton or Sanders.
edited 20th Jun '16 2:27:43 PM by flameboy21th
Non Indicative UsernameMaybe he's trustworthy as a deal broker, according to his fellow lawmakers, but his claims in speeches aren't THAT much more accurate
than those of Hillary.
Although, unlike her, he's never been caught saying Blatant Lies.
His behaviour regarding that incident with the nuclear waste also hardly does him credit.
Whether the Democrat voters have made the right choice or not is a moot point. What's done is done, no point in crying over spilled milk or playing blame games. Please focus on winning this election. While I fear for some of my relatives' lives with Hillary on the throne, I am terrified of a Trump-led superpower.
edited 20th Jun '16 2:32:03 PM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.Also Clinton was not a responce to Trump, she's had a lock on the nomination for a long time now. If anything Trump was a responce to Clinton. As someone said, it's baffling that the Republican responce to the Dem's picking the second least popular presidential candidate ever, was to pick the least popular presidential candidate ever.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran![]()
. It cost three thousand American lives, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, and the lives of all the Syrians who have died in the civil war spawned by the Iraq conflict. It was a training and recriuitment ground for the people who have now become ISIS. It was the single most disastrous decision in American foreign policy since Vietnam.
It says a lot to me. The fact that such a dusastrous mistake hasn't caused Hillary to reassess her hawkish attitudes and policies says a lot as well.
EDIT: When a candidate with a 65% disapproval rating is getting 40% of the vote in polls, it indicates that the Democrats have made a poor move. A Sanders candidacy could have motivated undecided voters to vote for so eone they liked. With both Trump and Clinton having over 50% disapproval ratings, this election is now, for most people, a choice for who to vote against. Ehich tends to depress turnout. And low turnout always benefits Republicans.
edited 20th Jun '16 2:36:35 PM by Galadriel
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Is Clinton currently in favour of unilateral, UN opposed, unprovoked invasions, where no current humanitarian crisis exists and overthrows of governments, with no long term plan?
Because if she's not (hint, she's not) then she has changed her forign policy hawkishness, she might not have changed it as much as you'd like but she's changed it to not being in favour of Iraq 2.0.
edited 20th Jun '16 2:33:42 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranSpeaking of Irak, I'm a bit annoyed; after Trump talked of Obama's "apology tour", factcheckers were quick to point out that he did not issue a single apology in any of those visit.
It felt like he had. I feel swindled. We're entitled to an apology. The USA abused their power and wronged other people. They killed, they destroyed, and they abandoned. A goddamned apology for their bumbling brutality is the least they can fucking give.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.Hillary Clinton is generally liked much more...when she's actually doing the job, not when she's campaigning.
And some of the arguments used against her kind of suck. "She's shrill!" And Trump isn't? When someone resorts to saying that she's shrill, they don't have any good reasons not to vote against her, since they're resorting to a rather sexist argument that doesn't make any sense when you actually listen to her.
Apparently Hillary hates campaigning and would much rather be actually getting work done.
Can't the election be advanced to August or something? Let's get this over with already! I've had more Trump than I can take!
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

And yet, Hillary will win, because ultimately voters prefer stability. Let's not rehash this again.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"