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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#126976: Jun 18th 2016 at 11:44:36 AM

Speaking of Muslims in school, has anyone here been reading Ms. Marvel?

Got the first three trades on my shelf.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#126977: Jun 18th 2016 at 11:48:12 AM

[up][up] Or it's that once they finish college and thus have a college education the needs for freedom of speech has been properly demonstrated to them. Remember the stereotype is college students, not college graduates, so you get the high school graduates going into college hating free speech and coming out more accepting of it.

It's almost like the system works.

edited 18th Jun '16 11:48:36 AM by Silasw

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#126978: Jun 18th 2016 at 12:30:34 PM

[up][up]She's ADORABLE. I also like that Marvel isn't whitewashing stuff: her family's attachment to traditional muslim Pakistani values (with huge emphasis on traditional) is a frequent source of conflict, and her brother is an honest-to-goodness fundamentalist. Yet they are all clearly well-intentioned,decent, reasonably reasonable people.

On a completely unrelated topic, good luck finding Trump a judge whom he hasn't insulted one way or another.

edited 18th Jun '16 12:31:16 PM by TheHandle

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#126979: Jun 18th 2016 at 1:06:51 PM

I've been reading Ms. Marvel but I'm behind since I use unlimited.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#126980: Jun 18th 2016 at 1:08:53 PM

[up][up] I found they are very similar to conservative Christian parents. And I'm not doing this in an ooooh Republicans and "the Taliban are the same", type of liberal burn, but their "fundamentalism" is basically what you'd find in your typical strict upbringing in say the South. Honestly I think (part of) the reason Muslims and Atheists are hated so much more than the other marginalized groups in America is that we so little of them in our media. It is hard to see a funny, likable, or compelling character and hate the people they come from. I feel like the tide for gay rights really turned when millions of Americans tuned in on Modern Family to watch Mitch and Cam. Just on a fundamental level they were able to empathize and see people they may hate, or more likely, simply view as alien.

edited 18th Jun '16 1:09:03 PM by JackOLantern1337

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#126981: Jun 18th 2016 at 1:29:21 PM

[up]Don't forget Glee, for all its faults.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#126982: Jun 18th 2016 at 1:46:26 PM

[up][up][up] There's an odd contradiction in Trump's complaint about the judge. Trump keeps claiming that he has not given hispanics cause to be offended and that they will vote for him en masse, and yet, that the judge must be biased because of his Mexican ancestry. So which is it? You can't have it both ways — either you fully admit that you're alienating Hispanics, or stop using the man's hispanic heritige as a disqualifier. You can't complain about how all hispanic people hate you while simultaniously boasting about how they love you.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#126983: Jun 18th 2016 at 1:56:56 PM

Do not. seek. sanity. in Trump.

It's like trying to have a reasoned conversation with a schoolyard bully. It's not going to work.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#126984: Jun 18th 2016 at 2:11:08 PM

[up] You're assuming that either Trump or his followers care about consistency

[up]x5 Trump's ideal judge would be a white man who never graduated high school.

edited 18th Jun '16 2:12:02 PM by tricksterson

Trump delenda est
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#126985: Jun 18th 2016 at 2:16:56 PM

[up]With no sense of conscience or decency.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#126986: Jun 18th 2016 at 3:01:04 PM

And due process, because Trump doesn't want any chance of a conviction. Not sure how likely it is that The D himself was part of the scam, not having investigated that much.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#126988: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:19:56 PM

Won't nominating anyone other than Trump amount to throwing the race to Clinton? I mean, no matter how unfeasable Trump may be as a candidate, I'd imagine there would be a massive public backlash against the GOP attempting to defy the democratic process by ditching the guy who won their primaries fair and square.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#126989: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:22:02 PM

The Republican party knows they can lose this election and survive. They aren't sure they can survive a Trump candidacy.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#126990: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:23:57 PM

Sure It'd throw the race to Clinton, but it might avoid throwing down ticket races to Dems.

edited 18th Jun '16 5:24:20 PM by Silasw

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#126991: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:25:10 PM

The GOP insiders may be quietly preparing to concede 2016 to the Democrats and try to get a better candidate next time. If that is, in fact, what they're doing, then there would seem to be only slightly more risk in trying to stage a coup against him this time.

edited 18th Jun '16 5:26:04 PM by Fighteer

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GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#126992: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:33:26 PM

Yes, but given their only path to presidential victory would lead to President Trump, it is possible that forcefully denying Trump the nomination would be a more preferable outcome for the Republican Party.

edited 18th Jun '16 5:34:04 PM by GameGuruGG

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#126993: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:35:59 PM

Wait, so this whole "second amendment means private citizens get to have guns" was an innovation from the Fifties that only really took off in the Eighties?

WTF?!

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#126994: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:49:45 PM

Yep. It's an invention of the NRA.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#126995: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:53:45 PM

How many things people brandishing the Constitution and the will of the Founding Fathers and Locke and so on are actually modern inventions? How often do people hide behind the glorified dead?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#126996: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:54:41 PM

More than you'd probably like to know. Lots of things in this nation boil down to profits and moneymaking.

Oh really when?
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#126997: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:59:29 PM

A comedian on a late-night television show is hardly a reputable source of political fodder...

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#126998: Jun 18th 2016 at 5:59:57 PM

The Confederate flag battle standard completely fell out of use after the Civil War until Southern racists needed a symbol to rally around during the Civil Rights Movement.

All references to God in government came up in the 50s as a counter to those godless Soviet scum.

Basically; the people most likely to rally behind strict constitutionalism and tradition also lobby for relatively recent inventions.

edited 18th Jun '16 6:00:46 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#126999: Jun 18th 2016 at 6:00:25 PM

There was no real argument on the Second Amendment until the Late 20th Century, where there was intense debate between the right to bear arms being a collective right or an individual right. Collective right meant that the Second Amendment refers specifically to state militias which in the present day would be the National Guard. Individual right means that the Second Amendment refers to a citizen's right to bear arms. This issue had been resolved in the Supreme Court in the early 2000s as referring to an individual right and not a collective right exclusive to the states.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#127000: Jun 18th 2016 at 6:00:48 PM

Heck, the Under God, part of the Pledge of Allegiance was only added about 60 years ago. Our opposition to birth control is also a more recent thing.

[up]Which is a stupid decision. To me the intent behind the second amendment is pretty unambiguous. It says guns are to be used by a regulated militia for the purposes of defending the country. That covers the National Guard, military, and maybe the police; not Joe Racist and his clan of wannabe revolutionaries.

edited 18th Jun '16 6:03:11 PM by Kostya


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