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GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#126926: Jun 17th 2016 at 3:33:55 PM

Well, Ramidel is right... The State Parties for Democrats and Republicans are theoretically different from the National Parties for Democrats and Republicans. Historically, state parties in more conservative states would be more conservative than the national parties, and state parties in more liberal states would be more liberal than the national parties. Because of social media and smartphones, everyone around the world now knows when someone is being a giant douche in their hometown, so the State Parties for both political party now have to tow the National Party's lines.

edited 17th Jun '16 3:35:19 PM by GameGuruGG

Wizard Needs Food Badly
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#126927: Jun 17th 2016 at 3:39:04 PM

Just saw that video. The Libertarian convention... is a nuthouse.

I kinda love it. It seems fun.

edited 17th Jun '16 3:39:19 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#126928: Jun 17th 2016 at 3:45:45 PM

Might the dominance of the two party in FPTP have to do with US's presidential system? With parliamentary systems like Canada or UK, even a 3rd party can have a strong influence on the government if the election results in a minority government. With the US's system it's a little more winners-take-all.

edited 17th Jun '16 3:47:26 PM by nightwyrm_zero

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#126929: Jun 17th 2016 at 3:46:28 PM

Yeah, a parliamentary system has the legislature elect the chief executive, so there's more room for multiple parties to compete at the individual MP level.

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United Earth
#126930: Jun 17th 2016 at 4:46:12 PM

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#126931: Jun 17th 2016 at 5:39:37 PM

I apologize if this has been posted before, but Hillary isn't taking Trump's shit.

(don't read the rest of the comment chain though, it's full of noxious trump supporters)

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#126932: Jun 17th 2016 at 5:41:51 PM

I dunno that sniping each other over Twitter is a good move for either of them. Not that I think anyone can stop Trump from doing what he wants, but someone should advise Clinton.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#126933: Jun 17th 2016 at 6:00:05 PM

[up] Yeah, the last thing she needs to do is get dragged down to his level. Trump thrives in that sort of environment.

majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#126935: Jun 17th 2016 at 6:10:15 PM

[up]Pardon? Both of the accounts are verified.

EDIT: Oh it was probably a joke, sorry if I couldn't tell lol

edited 17th Jun '16 6:12:35 PM by wehrmacht

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#126936: Jun 17th 2016 at 6:11:05 PM

[up][up] Tell that to the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#126937: Jun 17th 2016 at 6:19:23 PM

That was way funnier than it ought to be.

But to paraphrase/badly quote someone from rpg.net, Twitter is the worst thing to happen to human communication since the thrown brick through the window. Worse, it's the kind of platform where shitposting thrives - and the Don's campaign is run entirely on shitposting.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#126938: Jun 17th 2016 at 6:39:26 PM

Social media in general breeds terrible communication and shitposting.

edited 17th Jun '16 6:39:55 PM by Bat178

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#126939: Jun 17th 2016 at 7:08:13 PM

So FB is saying a number of companies are pulling out of the GOP convention....

....so does that mean Trump has to fund that too?

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#126940: Jun 17th 2016 at 7:09:56 PM

Somehow I doubt he could, but it's not funded solely companies... advertising, or whatever it is they do at a political convention.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#126941: Jun 17th 2016 at 7:18:36 PM

[up][up] I believe the RNC ultimately has to fund the convention.

As for the companies dropping sponsorship, I'm guessing it's for pragmatic reasons. If real chaos breaks out at the convention, they don't want their logo on display anywhere near by.

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#126942: Jun 17th 2016 at 7:29:25 PM

Many people had been calling for sponsors to pull their sponsorships from the RNC, purely because of Donald Trump being... well, you've seen how he's been speaking.

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#126943: Jun 17th 2016 at 7:35:52 PM

@ Hillary's twitter: I actually think this is a good look for her. She's not doing a shitty standup routine like Rubio did. She (well, more accurately, her social media team) is instead being a cheeky little gadfly, offering snark on Twitter to keep her image up as her surrogates lock onto Trump.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#126944: Jun 17th 2016 at 7:46:34 PM

"Delete your account" doesn't actually strike me as snarky. It's a pretty common shit comment I think.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#126945: Jun 17th 2016 at 7:47:58 PM

Strikes me as simple and to the point.

edited 17th Jun '16 7:49:56 PM by LSBK

Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#126946: Jun 17th 2016 at 8:20:55 PM

A bit late, but a few pages back Silasw said that Australia's electoral system is FPTP. Not true. We use a preferential system of voting, which prevents votes from being "wasted". We dropped FPTP back in 1917.

edited 17th Jun '16 8:22:00 PM by Cronosonic

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#126947: Jun 17th 2016 at 9:11:21 PM

[up][up] It's a fairly stereotypical shitpost. Not quite as blatantly offensive as the more common "kill yourself" shitpost, but it's something that tends to make me make me wary of someone. More to the point, it would get you banned on this site.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#126949: Jun 17th 2016 at 10:15:34 PM

From Trump's twitter:

Obama just endorsed Crooked Hillary. He wants four more years of Obama—but nobody else does!
That's not what the man's approval rates say, me bucko.

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God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#126950: Jun 17th 2016 at 11:50:59 PM

I was told to repost this since this is too superfluous of an topic for OTC.

So yeah, I might be wrong about a few things, but I'm pretty sure my take on the incoming history lesson is fairly accurate. So long ago, in the U.S., sometime after the automobile had been invented; there was an wave an public intoxication and domestic violence. All the fingers were pointed at alcoholic beverages. So under immense pressure from the public, the federal government made the consumption of alcohol illegal on an national by adding an Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. But the resulting War on Beer was getting to expensive to enforce while it was fattening the wallets of crime lords. As such, the government eventually added another amendment that basically said," Please ignore the amendment that we wrote an few years agothat outlawed liquor. We apologize in advance for any future undesirable incidents." Note that this is the first, and so far only time that an amendment to the U.S, Constitution has been repealed.

Now fast-forward to the mass-shooting in Orlando. The guy was on the FBI's watchlist, passed the background checks, was born on American soil, and legally brought some of those weapons. One homophobic rampage and a suicide later, I've heard through the grapevine that gun sales are skyrocketing. To me this can mean at least one of an few things: ISIS is running another recruitment drive, new gun laws are being drafted, the 2nd Amendment could be repealed within a few years if enough people go insane and start shooting people, or the old Grand Theft Auto game that I have was actually right about my government trying to take our games away (this is why I love satire).

Now since I don't actually have an stake in the gun argument, since we need those restriction on gun sales. But I'm more concerned about the 1st Amendment getting repealed. Since if one got repealed a few decades ago, I'm pretty sure another can be if something really stupid happens, like an American-based cult like the KKK starts an massacring people again. Or someone invents a new religion that's engineered to actually cause the apocalypse if it gets enough followers instead of those pagan, suicidal cults that popped up earlier in this century.

I know this seems unlikely, but the conspiracy theorist within is telling me that this has an chance of happening since history has an way of repeating itself. But then again, I believe that the next world war will occur within my lifetime and it'll be caused by North Korea or an group of insane terrorists.

TL;CR: So do Americans have an actual risk of getting their Constitutional rights legally revoked?

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