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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The stolen oppo research matters because (a) Trump forbade his staff to do it on him, so the Republicans are defenceless against it if the Democrats (or, now, the Russians) choose to reveal it, and (b) it's Donald Trump, a legendarily scummy businessman who's never come under this level of national scrutiny before, so odds are high on the investigators uncovering something seriously heinous - covered-up rape accusations, mysterious deaths, enormous fraud, you name it.
A presidential candidate getting a federal investigation dropped on him during his run would be quite something. The president of Russia having the power to launch a federal investigation on the sitting president of the United States as and when he chooses would be something else entirely.
Trump just became an even more colossal national-security risk.
edited 14th Jun '16 11:23:23 AM by Iaculus
What's precedent ever done for us?Would Putin even have the power to launch an investigation, though? America is not his jurisdiction, and as far as I'm aware Trump hasn't tried to pull any of his bullshit within Russia. If he wanted to do anything more he'd have to actually reveal whatever damaging information it is he thinks he has. This is, of course, dependent on there being anything in there that isn't already known. And is actually damaging.
Maybe the American war veteran is an American and therefore is free to select any religion he chooses, regardless of national origin, without fear of extremist retaliation for exercising his way of life.
Republicans think that shootings wouldn't happen if everybody had a gun so they could shoot the shooter. Their solution to spree killings is to add more bullets to the mixture.
The rising trend of shootings seems to disprove the notion, but when have facts ever won out against, "I FEEL that this is the answer."
Of course he does. ~.~ Whatever it takes to make this about Muslims being evil.
Is he willing to acknowledge that the victims were at a gay nightclub yet?
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Not happening. If they had something on Clinton, they'd have aired it by now. Apart from anything else, there's the fact that her private mail server was actually more secure than the State Department's ancient, creaky system.
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By 'launch an investigation', I mean 'reveal facts that require US federal enforcement to begin an investigation'. Which is a lot simpler if you have the dirt. Just do a yuuuge article on it in RT.
edited 14th Jun '16 11:37:03 AM by Iaculus
What's precedent ever done for us?You mean a federal investigation that might actually go somewhere as Clinton is currently under a federal investigation over... (sighs) that damned email controversy!
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I noted that a scandal against Trump might actually go somewhere whereas the Clinton email thing won't, but the latter is still under federal investigation.
edited 14th Jun '16 11:57:16 AM by GameGuruGG
Wizard Needs Food BadlyIf there was anything in those files damning enough to launch an investigation against Trump, don't you think Clinton would have revealed it already?
Regarding the investigation on Clinton, didn't Julian Assange say he's planning to release some new emails that he thinks will be enough to indict her?
Newt Gingrich recently proposed creating a new HUAC
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Someone wants to be veep/destroy the free world.
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Julian Assange is an asshole with no remaining credibility.
Clinton's probably saving the juicy attack material for the general election run. It's unlikely that there's information in there that would be sufficient for a criminal indictment of Trump.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Julian Assange ruined his reputation a long time ago when he started to release edited information to compromise the US politically in Iraq and in the Middle East, removing any resemblance of neutrality he and Wikileaks had, everything he releases should be taken with a truck load of salt.
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A lot of people theorize that he only entered as a vanity thing before it started to get out of hand. Plus, his campaign is very undermanned, and his thin skin can't handle the constant scrutiny that comes with being a GE candidate. The Republicans know that ratfucking him out of it will fracture the party for good, so the only way that it goes to someone other than Trump is if he drops out right before the convention.
Gingrich claims a new HUAC would only be used against potential terrorists, but we all remember what happened when the FIRST HUAC was operating: It was used to intimidate anyone they saw fit, whether they were actually communists or just a little subversive. Victims were guilty until proven innocent. Tons of lives were ruined. This is what he wants the U.S. to return to?
Combined with the massively more powerful surveillance techniques since the '50s, the possibilities if this were ever to come to pass are flat-out frightening.
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It's really frustrating to know that we've got "elder statesmen" who are convinced that something like that would help matters when they're old enough to have seen some of the damage the original caused.
Hell, I live within 15 miles of a former Japanese Interment Camp - I pass by it every time I go to my parents' house. And despite the damage that shit caused back in WWII, we've got people advocating bringing it back for those of Arabic descent.
edited 14th Jun '16 1:09:49 PM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"

Trump is just echoing social media at this point: lots of "answers" proposed by armchair legislators, no solutions.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"