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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#125676: Jun 12th 2016 at 6:17:08 AM

I think we're figuring that it was because it was a gay club, but that's our assumption.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#125678: Jun 12th 2016 at 6:19:36 AM

Paris was technically carried out by a mixed group by the way, both French and Belgium citizens.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#125679: Jun 12th 2016 at 6:32:15 AM

Jesus Christ, what's up with Orlando this weekend? Crazy assholes keep shooting people.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#125680: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:22:13 AM

The Orlando nightclub shooter has been ID'd as one Omar Saddiqui Mateen, news sources are reporting.

The fallout from this is going to fun, I can tell.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Superdark33 The dark Mage of the playground from Playgrounds and Adventures Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
The dark Mage of the playground
#125681: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:23:59 AM

Oh good so now its going to by a Terrr attack aginst MURICA instead of some insane bigot that will get covered up and symphatized.

Welp, more fuel to the fire.

edited 12th Jun '16 7:24:49 AM by Superdark33

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#125682: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:25:33 AM

More and more I'm starting to think that gun ownership period should be a privilege as opposed to a right.

i'm tired, my friend
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#125683: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:28:36 AM

Guess we might as well cancel the election. Pretty sure the Republicans have already won now.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125684: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:30:32 AM

[up] not sure how serious you're being there. If you are serious, a lot may depend on how the candidates and others react, I'd think.

EDIT: I just had a morbid-yet-amusing thought that, to be honest, I worry might be out of line to actually share...

I'm opting to spoiler tag it and if it is out of line, say the word and I'll edit it out entirely.

Can the GOP denounce this as an act of terrorism without, intentionally or otherwise, also appearing to be sympathetic to the LGBT community?

edited 12th Jun '16 8:08:48 AM by sgamer82

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#125685: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:34:09 AM

Trump's response on Twitter:

Really bad shooting in Orlando. Police investigating possible terrorism. Many people dead and wounded.

Now if only he could make all his tweets like this. (Immediately after this one, he went back to bashing Clinton for her attack ads.)

Edit: The death toll has been bumped up to 50, making this the worst mass shooting in the U.S. EVER.

edited 12th Jun '16 7:36:46 AM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#125686: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:36:43 AM

Give it time. Now that we know the shooter was descended from Middle Eastern migrants he's going to go insane.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#125687: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:37:04 AM

@ Superdark:

Oh good so now its going to by a Terrr attack aginst MURICA instead of some insane bigot that will get covered up and symphatized.

Can't it be both, as they so often are?

edited 12th Jun '16 7:38:38 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#125688: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:44:39 AM

I'm watching the press conference. Shooter was Omar Mateen, in his late 20s, who is an American citizen but not an Orlando local (he's from Port St. Lucie, which is a couple hours south of Orlando). He has family members who are not US citizens, but they declined to say what their nationality is. (All of this was mentioned before the press conference officially started and was not repeated by anyone — they're officially withholding even his name, though that cat seems to be out of the bag, so I'm not sure why they're bothering.) They updated the death toll from around 20 to more than 50, with 53 victims hospitalized. They mentioned that the initial responding officers exchanged fire with the gunman, and they credited the SWAT team with saving at least 30 hostages from inside the club. One officer was injured (a SWAT officer who was shot in the head, but was wearing a kevlar helmet that prevented the bullet from penetrating). So far it appears to have been a lone wolf sort of thing with no clear connections between the shooter and any organizations, but that investigation is still ongoing. Weapons used was a handgun and an AR-15. Initial shots were just after 2:00 AM, additional shots were exchanged when SWAT went in at 5:00 AM, and there was some communication between the shooter and authorities during that time, but they aren't releasing any details yet.

Sorry for the terrible formatting, writing stuff as it's mentioned on TV.

edited 12th Jun '16 7:49:56 AM by NativeJovian

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#125689: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:46:16 AM

@ Stamina:

More and more I'm starting to think that gun ownership period should be a privilege as opposed to a right.

That won't stop terrorists — just look at Paris and The Troubles.

Keep Rolling On
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#125690: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:51:26 AM

Senselessly tragic. What will the effects of this be?

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#125691: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:56:19 AM

[up]Gun control?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125692: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:58:34 AM

[up]Beahahaha- oh, you're serious.(?)

Black comedy aside, have any of the shootings thus far resulted in meaningful gun control? San Bernardino is the next worst recent one I can think of, those guys were terrorists (where here it's still up in the air) and I've heard nothing of the sort resulting from it.

edited 12th Jun '16 7:59:08 AM by sgamer82

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#125693: Jun 12th 2016 at 7:59:24 AM

I'm mostly concerned that this will give Trump the presidency.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125694: Jun 12th 2016 at 8:01:14 AM

Sadly, I think there's enough of a gap between now and November for this incident to leave the public consciousness before the election proper.

Plus, see my morbid-yet-amusing thought a few posts up.

edited 12th Jun '16 8:02:11 AM by sgamer82

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#125695: Jun 12th 2016 at 8:01:45 AM

Gun control? Lawl that is never going to happen, more than likely it will lead to more guns instead.

Very likely it will be just another excuse for racism, just going by the name alone, and give Trump more supporters. He could very well win because of this via just fear mongering.

edited 12th Jun '16 8:02:37 AM by Memers

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#125696: Jun 12th 2016 at 8:05:43 AM

[up]

Gun control? Lawl that is never going to happen, more than likely it will lead to more guns instead.

And an increase in Pink Pistols membership?

Keep Rolling On
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#125697: Jun 12th 2016 at 8:06:18 AM

[up][up][up] You've a point with that thought, though. Trump and the GOP's ability to bank on this is going to be somewhat limited because framing this as an attack on Western values is implicitly admitting LGBT rights as essentially western/American. They're likely going to have to dance around that issue and downplay just where the attack took place in their statements. I expect Clinton will go the opposite route and emphasise this as a hate crime against homosexuals.

edited 12th Jun '16 8:06:30 AM by DrDougsh

general_tiu Since: Jul, 2009
#125698: Jun 12th 2016 at 8:08:47 AM

This is a real tragedy and senseless act of violence that we ever seen. However, we must think about what we do next carefully.

edited 12th Jun '16 8:15:02 AM by general_tiu

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125699: Jun 12th 2016 at 8:10:27 AM

[up] The problem, as cynical as I know this sounds, is that very few people with the voice to do so are going to be interested in doing that.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#125700: Jun 12th 2016 at 8:15:31 AM

I am waiting for Trump's "Now, if only all those gay clubbers were carrying" like he did with the Bataclan. Fucking asshole.


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