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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#125351: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:09:25 AM

Someone detonated a small bomb in a Target restroom.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#125352: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:13:14 AM

Dear lord....

Why the fuck do people think it's trans people who cause violence in bathrooms? Every single violent crime we've seen in relation to these laws has been committed by a cis person.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#125353: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:15:01 AM

Transpeople are much less common than cispeople, so of course there will be fewer assaults committed by them ("base rate fallacy"). Nonwithstanding that, a lot of people think in terms of fear rather than actually assessing a risk.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
The would-be novelist
#125354: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:16:11 AM

Stop stopping me from oppressing! You oppressors!

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#125355: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:16:30 AM

This is terrorism, isn't it?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#125356: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:17:16 AM

If we're talking a far-leftist coming into power, then it's possible the military might actually fight against them, causing a civil war. You'd also get states seceding, as well as armed resistance. The resistance doesn't actually need to overthrow the government, only make its life difficult enough that it decides to moderate its policies.

Of course, this is rather irrelevant, since the reasons why a Stalinist dictatorship would run into massive problems is the same reason that one won't form in the first place: it's an incredibly unpopular form of government. Since we live in a society where people can just vote leaders out of office, actual fighting would be completely unnecessary.

Leviticus 19:34
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#125357: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:19:22 AM

[up][up]We have to prove that a minority did it for it to count.

Expect the right-wing media to try to bury this as quickly as possible, if not trying to imply that it's somehow a false flag attack...

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#125359: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:34:11 AM

Article that tries to examine the racial divides in the Democratic Party in some depth.

Perian Since: Jun, 2016
#125360: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:05:18 AM

[up] Again with the racism claims. Especially since it is based on a false premise: Sanders actually won the young black vote (by a small margin) and the young Hispanic vote (by a large margin).

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#125361: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:10:36 AM

I don't think the article is saying Sanders is racist or perceived as such (which is not a very credible claim anyway), but that he's perceived as wanting too much at once even when smaller steps work as well as having no record on race issues (both of those things are fairly accurate).

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#125362: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:12:01 AM

You realize that adding additional caveats doesn't negate the original point? You can't argue that Sanders won the black vote by pointing out that he won the black youth vote. "Black people under 30" is not the same as "black people as a whole", so saying that he won with black people under 30 doesn't change the fact that he still lost with black people as a whole.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#125363: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:15:38 AM

[up]Being young apparently means your vote counts for more. Something I don't get and I'm 21.

edited 9th Jun '16 11:17:53 AM by LSBK

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125364: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:15:56 AM

"Sanders isn't giving up - yet" - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0YV1UB

Sanders has spoken to Obama and agreed to support Hillary against Trump, but isn't prepared to drop out just yet.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#125365: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:19:15 AM

A half step in the right direction.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Perian Since: Jun, 2016
#125366: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:19:26 AM

[up][up][up], [up][up][up][up] One of the main points of the article is that young minorities do not connect with Sanders's 'revolutionary' ideas:

Data from the Pew Research Center underscores the importance of not confusing white young voters for all young voters.

So it is the article itself which stresses the importance of young voters, not me.

edited 9th Jun '16 11:20:07 AM by Perian

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#125367: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:30:40 AM

That's one line from one paragraph three quarters of the way through the article. It's far from the main point — which is that Sanders connects far more with white people than anyone else.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#125368: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:31:32 AM

Young voters are notoriously unreliable.

That's why no one panders to them.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#125369: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:49:28 AM

That Sanders statement pretty much is a concession, he "said afterward he would work with Clinton to defeat Trump. Sanders said, however, that he would stay in the race to compete in the final Democratic primary vote in Washington, D.C., on June 14."

He also put a hard deadline on dropping out, it seems that we can expect him to officially drop out and endorse Clinton once DC is done (voting or counting, I don't know).

Have TYT exploded yet? They are many like them are gonna be pissed at this and even more so once the concession is offical.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#125370: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:49:59 AM

You know if somebody says "the candidate you support has a racial problem" or "the candidate you support has trouble connecting to other racial demographics" and your response to that is to yell "there's no racism in the campaign" you may be part of the issue. Having racial blindspots isn't the same as being fullbore racist, and defending a candidate from racism charges that haven't been leveled rather than accepting that the campaign has had issues reaching non-white voters is not helping anybody, yourself and your candidate included.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#125371: Jun 9th 2016 at 11:54:09 AM

Speaking of non-whites, how did Sanders and Clinton split the Asian-American vote in California?

That's always been my sticking point, Sanders problem isn't with connecting with racial minorities, it's specifically with connecting with black people, I believe he does about standard with Hispanics and I'd assume that he's got the support of Jewish voters.

Now separate of his voter connection problem he certainly has tunnel vision problems when it comes to racial issues over economic/class issues.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Perian Since: Jun, 2016
#125372: Jun 9th 2016 at 12:19:08 PM

[up][up] If the article simply had stated that the Sanders campaign had difficulties trying to reach out with (older) minority voters, I would have been okay with that. But the content of the article is basically 'Sanders base are predominantly white revolutionaries who are not interested at all in the issues of non-white people'. Otherwise it would not have needed to cite studies reporting that young people are as racist as their grandparents, referenced the hard-core Sanders supporters threatening to go to Trump, talked about a 'racial rift' etc.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#125373: Jun 9th 2016 at 12:27:00 PM

I fail to see why people keep making this an issue. There is no contradiction between Sanders doing well with some minorities and/or young people, and also say that most of his supporters are white.

For example, most registered Democrats are white, even though white people are much more likely to be Republican. These two facts do not contradict one another.

Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#125374: Jun 9th 2016 at 12:31:38 PM

Looks like they probably already caught the Target Terrorist. http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/evanston/crime/ct-evr-evanston-target-bathroom-explosion-tl-0616-20160609-story.html

"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#125375: Jun 9th 2016 at 12:33:03 PM

Obama has officially endorsed Hillary for President

On one hand it's not unexpected that he supports Hillary, it's not like there was ever a universe where Obama intended to vote for Trump. However the fact he is doing so on the record and even promising to campaign for her shows a strong level of confidence on his part, and it does show that Hillary doesn't intend to distance herself from Obama's legacy.

He was also very complementary of Bernie Sanders. I do get the sense that their meeting went very well from this and other news articles.

If I had to guess on what's going to happen, within a week Sanders will officially drop out of the race in exchange for some reforms to the Democratic primary system and Sabders will have some influence on the makeup of Hillary's administration (whether it be a cabinet position for himself, or something else entirely).


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