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#125276: Jun 8th 2016 at 12:52:44 PM

I beg to differ. The hardcore Marxist-style revolutionaries want the system to collapse completely, with food riots and civil revolt, so they can pull all the bourgeoisie out of their comfortable homes and line them up against walls for the firing squads. Very The Dark Knight Rises in principle.

edited 8th Jun '16 12:53:30 PM by Fighteer

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#125278: Jun 8th 2016 at 1:07:28 PM

Not that it isn't hypocritical but we've already gone over that. Now it sort of feels like a rehash. Though, the author is talking as if they're the only person to make note of the hypocrisy which is weird.

Though I have to say, I find the glee some people (not that writer) have of "Maybe she'll be indicted/there will be another scandal/have a serious health problem" very off-putting. And if your saying Sanders should stay in on the off chance of any of those things happening you are grasping at the thinnest of straws.

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#125279: Jun 8th 2016 at 1:09:13 PM

Dirty Communists have been demonstrably willing to use violent uprisings throughout history. Saner Marxists would prefer a velvet revolution, though they'd run into the same problem: firearm-owning citizens would form militias to resist communist rule to the best of their ability, making life a living hell for whoever has the misfortune of running this new regime.

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#125280: Jun 8th 2016 at 1:37:08 PM

[up][up] Worst-case, if Hillary should have a catastrophic failure, the party would probably go to Sanders as a backup, since he came in second, but they wouldn't be required to.

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#125281: Jun 8th 2016 at 1:39:29 PM

Trump’s fundraisers see no chance of hitting $1 billion and Trump: 'No reason’ to raise $1B for campaign. Which is really idiotic, considering that "publicity" is not the only thing you can and should buy with that money. Organization, door-to-door campaigning, for example, are things you can buy with this money.

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#125282: Jun 8th 2016 at 1:47:44 PM

What, he's not going to get his rich pals to chip in? For shame, Trump.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#125283: Jun 8th 2016 at 1:58:00 PM

The craziest part of this whole thing is that this is just the tip of the iceberg in fuckery.

By the time September rolls around we'll wish for the good ol days of the summer in comparison.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125284: Jun 8th 2016 at 1:58:41 PM

It's sounding a lot like Trump just plans to just wing the election...

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#125285: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:05:06 PM

Sometimes it feels like Trump started this whole thing as a joke, but now he's got too much support to just shrug and give up.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125286: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:21:38 PM

And his ego won't let him just say "y'know what, nevermind."

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#125287: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:24:48 PM

That would be hilarious, though. Halfway through the election,

  • Trump: Hey, nice seeing everyone, I'm sure this is going to be a great debate but honestly, I'm bored of all this crap so I'm quitting the race to go hunt the most dangerous game or something. It's been a blast. Be sure to buy my new book, To Serve Man!

And then everyone feels a great disturbance in the Force, as if a thousand Republicans literally exploded from sheer outrage all at once.

edited 8th Jun '16 2:24:54 PM by TobiasDrake

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#125288: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:25:04 PM

[up][up][up][up] To be fair, that is how he won the Republican Nomination.

That being said, it's obvious why everyone is reluctant to fund Trump's presidential bid. Rich people running megacorporations benefit from the current economic structure of free trade and corporate globalism which Trump would irreparably damage. In addition, any business caught funding Trump's campaign will justifiably be protested and boycotted by minorities and millennials which make up a significant chunk of the current and future buying public.

edited 8th Jun '16 2:27:59 PM by GameGuruGG

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#125289: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:25:13 PM

Given how soundly he trashed Jeb Bush, he might figure that money spent isn't making all the difference in this campaign.

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#125290: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:28:02 PM

All the money in the world can't make up for a truly odious candidate; look at George Wallace if you don't believe that. However, part of the problem on the GOP side of late has been the grotesque inefficiency with which they've spent their billions in campaign cash, wasting huge amounts on SuperPACs which were little better than affinity fraud engines.

This is what happens when you let Libertarian-Objectivist, free-market people run campaign finance operations.

edited 8th Jun '16 2:29:43 PM by Fighteer

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#125291: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:32:48 PM

Um, what has George Wallace to do with campaign financing.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#125292: Jun 8th 2016 at 4:24:51 PM

Considering what has happened so far I expect that he things the media will basically pay for his campaign as it goes. Who needs TV ads when you are on The Tonight Show, news, entertainment shows, etc every day anyway.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#125293: Jun 8th 2016 at 4:33:23 PM

[up][up] i think the point was he was so bad no amount of finance would help.

Also: "Exclusive: Senator Warren to endorse Clinton, sources say" - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0YU2R8

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#125294: Jun 8th 2016 at 4:40:19 PM

[up][up]That will probably be his next big thing — Trump TV: "All Trump, all the time!"

Which would prompt me to turn it off, the same way Elvis used to do whenever Robert Goulet or Mel Tormé appeared on his set: by shooting it.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#125295: Jun 8th 2016 at 5:08:41 PM

"Exclusive: Senator Warren to endorse Clinton, sources say"
Not unexpected. She basically waited for the Primaries to finish to avoid pissing off either camp, which as the leading Progressive Democrat, was probably the wise move for her.

I still hope she doesn't take the Vice Presidency, because tactically, that would be the DUMBEST move for long term play.

edited 8th Jun '16 5:09:08 PM by PotatoesRock

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#125296: Jun 8th 2016 at 5:24:48 PM

Good lord, Warren as VP would be an enormous mistake.

Bercerra, Kaine, or Perez are the only acceptable choices.

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#125298: Jun 8th 2016 at 6:10:27 PM

so.... I just found this....

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#125299: Jun 8th 2016 at 6:47:44 PM

Obama is encouraging Sanders to support Clinton.
Water Is Wet. I would be far more surprised if he wasn't.

As if civil asset forfeiture wasn't bad enough, Oklahoma can now max out your credit cards, too. Cross-posting from the Law Enforcement thread.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol is using a new device that enables them to seize money in your bank account.

Last month, the OHP started using 16 ERA Ds, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, reported News on 9.

The process of seizing money electronically works similar to civil asset forfeiture, where police can seize property or cash if they believe it is connected to a crime. They can do this without a warrant or arrest, and they don’t have to prove a crime was committed first.

If a trooper suspects you have money tied to a crime, the highway patrol can use the ERAD to scan any cards you have and seize the money.

“We’re gonna look for different factors in the way that you’re acting,” Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lt. John Vincent told News on 9. “We’re gonna look for if there’s a difference in your story. If there’s someway that we can prove that you’re falsifying information to us about your business.”

Once someone’s money is seized, it is up to them to prove that the money is not connected to the crime.

“If you can prove can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money, it will be given back to you,” Vincent said. “And we’ve done that in the past.”

However, State Sen. Kyle Loveless, R-Oklahoma City, told News on 9 that the ability to seize money like that removes due process and the belief that a suspect is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

He said he has already seen instances where police have abused the system, so he is planning on introducing legislation to change it.

Loveless said he will propose legislation that will require a conviction before any assets could be seized.

“If I had to err on the side of one side versus the other, I would err on the side of the Constitution,” Loveless said. “And I think that’s what we need to do.”

According to News on 9, OHP paid ERAD Group Inc. $5,000 for the software and scanners, and will give them then 7.7 percent of all the cash the highway patrol seizes.

I have to wonder just how much of a discount Oklahoma got from the ERAD Group ...

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#125300: Jun 8th 2016 at 6:51:45 PM

I really don't wanna hate police but they're making it really fucking difficult.

Oh really when?

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