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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#125101: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:36:04 PM

  • expects.

Also would it still be possible for him to get a contested convention even with Clinton as the supposed nominee? Or are all of the other primaries just cancelled now?

edited 7th Jun '16 7:40:59 PM by theLibrarian

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#125102: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:47:11 PM

I just watched Clinton's victory speech, and I'm not ashamed to say that I welled up a tad. Beautiful moment in history.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#125103: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:47:39 PM

[up][up]Would you want that to happen? I don't see that reflecting well on him at all.

edited 7th Jun '16 7:48:02 PM by LSBK

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#125104: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:49:01 PM

Is Sanders even concerned about that much anymore? It hasn't been reflecting well on him for a bit now.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#125105: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:50:32 PM

Most of the primaries are done tonight; I think its just DC left. The primaries always keep going, the Republicans are doing theirs tonight as well.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#125106: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:00:03 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#125107: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:03:08 PM

@Dogs: I sincerely hope this time next year you won't be eating your words as your friends and perhaps family are sent to die overseas in Syria and Iraq.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#125108: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:03:17 PM
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#125109: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:06:00 PM

[up][up]What, do you actually think Clinton and/or Trump would introduce conscription to stop ISIS?

[up]I hate those scumbags so very much. They might as well be giving out targeting information to whatever radical decides to go Army of God on a clinic/researcher/doctor.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:07:42 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#125110: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:06:48 PM

Capsase, that seems like an entirely UNCALLED for mean comment. Seriously.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:07:49 PM by AceofSpades

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#125111: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:07:21 PM

[up][up][up][up]Phrased that way it doesn't come off as sincere at all.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:07:37 PM by LSBK

flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#125113: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:12:31 PM

@Rational: Obviously not, but the probability of a given person having a friend or family member in the military is fairly high given the rate of service in the US. Either way, Clinton seems to be in favor of large scale military intervention in the middle east against ISIS. As I've said before, I think that's a terrible idea, as the inevitability of a protracted and brutal guerrilla campaign means political support for the war effort will falter rather quickly.

@Aces: My best friend from high school and my favorite uncle both died in Iraq, and I have a cousin who came home maimed. I am being absolutely sincere about this.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:16:52 PM by CaptainCapsase

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#125114: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:15:39 PM

No need to be so spiteful and angry about it.

We've been over this, you want peace and stability over there? We need large scale intervention. We need to be there running the place for generations. Not intervening would be far worse.

Oh really when?
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#125115: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:15:39 PM

Pros and Cons of Sanders staying in the race: http://www.theonion.com/graphic/arguments-and-against-bernie-sanders-staying-rac-52977

tongue

[up]There's no stomach for a large scale ground war in the Middle East; at most Clinton would step up airstrikes and special forces missions. More likely she'll stick to Obama's tactics.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#125116: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:16:14 PM

And that opinion of yours called for a highly insensitive comment about someone's friends and family? No, no it did not. There is a way to phrase such opinions appropriately, and that was not it.

And, sorry about your family, but that still doesn't justify a spiteful sounding comment about someone else's, for fuck's sake. Appropriateness is a fucking thing, dude. It just looks like you took a potshot at someone specifically because she's happy Clinton won. We don't have the context for your comment, nor should we have to for you to be polite about your disapproval on this forum.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:22:20 PM by AceofSpades

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#125117: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:21:11 PM

So, Sanders is officially mathematically eliminated.

Even if he was literally given 100% of the remaining delegates he would be short.

GG.

New Survey coming this weekend!
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#125118: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:22:15 PM

Yeah, that comment was just downright nasty, Capsace. And it was completely uncalled for.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#125119: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:22:36 PM

So now we just need a direct news outlet to declare him done?

Albeit, it'd be neat if he dropped out now that he knows he's done.

Shadow?
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#125120: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:22:53 PM

[up][up] Believe it or not, I was being very sincere, and I strongly protest the thump for that reason; I know a fair number of people who served in Iraq. The prospect of us going back chills most of them to the bone despite most of them no longer being in the military, and honestly, I find it absolutely disgusting how eager some of the people are to send thousands of people to their deaths. Especially those people who won't have to personally feel the burden of the war in the form of family or friends coming home maimed or not coming home at all.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:24:03 PM by CaptainCapsase

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#125121: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:23:17 PM

Eh, we'll probably hear something tomorrow. What we'll hear is anyone's guess, but it will be something.

Has it occurred to you that we think Clinton is the best way to avoid further war? Because that's not something that anyone here has actually expressed a desire to do. To help out and clean up the damn mess we caused by fucking it up in the first place, yes, but not to get involved in another war. There are reparations to be made on our part. That, you know, would help to avoid war further down the line.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:25:22 PM by AceofSpades

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#125122: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:23:49 PM

[up][up]Given how the comment was worded, I really don't believe you.

Oh really when?
flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
The would-be novelist
#125123: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:24:25 PM

Just because you have Freudian Excuse doesn't make what you said less assholish.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#125124: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:25:54 PM

The comment's been thumped. Let's not beat this into the ground, please.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#125125: Jun 7th 2016 at 8:25:56 PM

[up][up] I was being completely serious; I desperately hope that Clinton decides against returning to the middle east in force, for reasons I have stated before I believe it would be an absolute disaster, beyond the horrific human cost of a long term intervention in the region.

edited 7th Jun '16 8:26:53 PM by CaptainCapsase


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